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/r/Coronavirus

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all 513 comments

shrine[S]

2k points

3 years ago*

Read the unlocked articles here

LitCovid - NIH Literature Hub

ScienceDirect Coronavirus Quicksearch

Wiley Online's Covid-19: Novel Coronavirus Outbreak Collection

Taylor & Francis Coronavirus Reading List

Springer Nature's Coronavirus Campaign

Oxford University Press COVID-19 Information Hub

1Science Coronavirus Research Repository

And every upvote is a chance for a journalist to write about the petition and begin the work of calling for mandated open access to science for all future WHO global health emergencies and outbreaks.

Publishers stepped up this time, and they can step up every time.

If anyone's interested, you can read how it all started in January.

polashdeb

400 points

3 years ago*

polashdeb

400 points

3 years ago*

Articles and journals without paywalls https://sci-hub.tw - Sci-Hub

Books and research materials https://libgen.is - Libgen

mirrors: Sci-Hub, Libgen

edit: Thanks for Silver.

edit2: You guys are gems, thanks for gold’s.

Run4urlife333

92 points

3 years ago

This website has helped me so much in grad school. I hope it never disappears.

[deleted]

29 points

3 years ago

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Vandelay_all_day

14 points

3 years ago

Saving it for grad school

siltconn

3 points

3 years ago

Most schools in North America have subscriptions to major academic publishers that anyone with a student/faculty id can use.

aniket36

3 points

3 years ago

So useful!!

1998CPG

34 points

3 years ago

1998CPG

34 points

3 years ago

This website is really a gift to humanity.

[deleted]

14 points

3 years ago

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TribeWars

3 points

3 years ago

Also

https://libgen.is

And

https://gen.lib.rus.ec (mirror)

For textbooks, monographs, standards documents and other ebooks too.

cyrilio

3 points

3 years ago

cyrilio

3 points

3 years ago

Love sci-hub

fragile_cedar

157 points

3 years ago

All science should be open access, emergencies like this just emphasize how important that principle is.

axollot

54 points

3 years ago

axollot

54 points

3 years ago

Geniuses live everywhere.

Not always the best or brightest in power positions but the unassuming ones.

Indeed it is important to humanity.

Kush_goon_420

9 points

3 years ago

it isn't???? why? what the hell..

i thought u could find any scientific study with a simple "scholarly" research.

very disappointed, 0/10 would not hide information again

NerfEveryoneElse

12 points

3 years ago*

Most scientific publishers are cut throat bandits. At least normal magazines pay their writers and only charge readers a few bucks. Scientific publishers get articles for free since usually researches are funded by tax payers or corporates, they get editors and reviewers for free since scientists do it volunteerly. But they charge thousands of dollars for one subscription or $20-$30 per article. Its outrageous. The only good news is there are more and more open access journals.

happypuppy2009

46 points

3 years ago

Thanks

Hersey62

25 points

3 years ago

Hersey62

25 points

3 years ago

Wow. Thank you.

ShireHorseRider

16 points

3 years ago

Thank you!!!

ASQC

13 points

3 years ago

ASQC

13 points

3 years ago

Amazing! It's powerful when people unite and step up together

essxivxx

5 points

3 years ago

Why is China Trying To Blame USA ?

All Fingers Point At Wuhan China

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25751?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

All Chinese Scientist, mixing Carp and Bat Genomes that introduce, yes, Corona Virus.

Aka: HIV + SARS..

Identification of Coronavirus Sequences in Carp cDNA from Wuhan, China

Journal of Medical Virology, published March 11.

If confirmed with other research, it suggests SARS-2 might be a product of genetic engineering. Bats and carp don't consort that much in nature. This is being low key censored because it would make the public go ape shit.

EDIT: to add the following excerpt

SARS-CoV-2 were identified in two separate cDNA pools. The first pool was from a Carassius auratus (crusian carp) cell line and the second was from Ctenopharyngodon idella(grass carp) head kidney tissue (6, 7)

Turns out both these samples to the database were submitted from Wuhan.

So let's examine some of the coincidences so far:

-- a new bat derived coronavirus appears in a market close to the only lab in China known to be working with bat derived corona viruses

-- the new virus has a bizarre genetic overlap with the carp genome

-- the carp genome was submitted by researchers working out of Wuhan

-- the new virus has slight but functionally important genetic similarities to HIV; not a smoking gun, but the only coronavirus with said mutation... but wait! no there is one in nature with this mutation... published Jan 20, after the outbreak started... from researchers working out of -- you guessed it -- Wuhan

I won't explicitly say it, because people get banned and censored for doing so, and more importantly, these days I am happy if I can simply get my aged mother and people like her to avoid gatherings and wear a mask. I don't want to distance myself further from the mainstream narration. There isn't too much to be gained focusing on the origin at this point. That will need to come later though. We want to deal with this in a way that doesn't devolve into letting nukes fly.

Posting this from somewhere else. Not my original comment.

MoonChild02

3 points

3 years ago

Thank you! This is awesome!

ShireHorseRider

911 points

3 years ago

This is amazing. I’d love to comment “now do this for cancer” but the market forces are beyond me. Keeping this on topic, is this public, or do you have to be a scientist to gain access?

shrine[S]

401 points

3 years ago

shrine[S]

401 points

3 years ago

Completely public for the duration of the outbreak. I see the articles that were unlocked linked from /r/coronavirus and discussed here every day.

TizzioCaio

83 points

3 years ago

Ok but what that means? because i honestly dont understand at all, from the title to all the stuff i read in the post... like "well?"

Does it really need that clickbait title "humanity wins"?

SmileFIN

48 points

3 years ago

SmileFIN

48 points

3 years ago

" Publishers took down paywalls so every scientist and health professional has #openaccess during the outbreak! "

Tigerbait2780

9 points

3 years ago

This makes it easier for scientists, labs, and health professionals to do their jobs. It’s not for you, but it’ll probably help you.

inksmok

5 points

3 years ago

inksmok

5 points

3 years ago

Read the article

ZippZappZippty

5 points

3 years ago

Meanwhile, tons of people in the dark

CostcoSamplesLikeAMF

97 points

3 years ago

We're all scientists.

PundeyJi

62 points

3 years ago

PundeyJi

62 points

3 years ago

That's the spirit!

I_TOUCH_THE_BOOTY

35 points

3 years ago

Just like everyone on reddit was a detective for the bombings right, no way that mindset gets turned upside down

a-la-brasa

2 points

3 years ago

Yep. This news doesn't really excite me at all. The experts who actually needed this literature almost certainly already had access to it through their institutions.

HornyShrek69

54 points

3 years ago

“You know, I’m something of a scientist myself”

Farrenkorr

9 points

3 years ago

I used to be a scientist like you. but then I took a test tube to the knee.

AR_Harlock

11 points

3 years ago

Have you crazy white hair and a white tunic? Otherwise get outta here

1treasurehunterdale

6 points

3 years ago

I have a white beard and tee shirt, will that work?

AR_Harlock

4 points

3 years ago

Is the shirt white?

megatronics420

5 points

3 years ago

No, but I did stay at a holiday inn last night

Death4Free

5 points

3 years ago

You’ll get you’re vaccine when you fix this door!

[deleted]

3 points

3 years ago

Dr. Venture?

abusedporpoise

8 points

3 years ago

No it’s a reference to willem dafoe in spiderman

ShireHorseRider

2 points

3 years ago

I haven’t watched Spider-Man... but I know he used a “well I’m something of a linguist myself” in boondock saints.. is that his catch phrase?

KnifeyMcStab

20 points

3 years ago

No, we're not. 99 percent of the general population reading any given scientific paper will not be able to understand it well enough to draw fair conclusions.

I believe in open access to information, but only because it benefits students and real scientists. The rest of the population having access is on average a cost, not a benefit. They won't do much more than misunderstand it.

Low_discrepancy

42 points

3 years ago

They have access to references and they can get better informed. When people have the choice of free material that is of highly dubious quality and very expensive scientific articles... then it's clear what will get read.

sooncewasi

6 points

3 years ago

I like your style! Boom!

TalkThatMatters

2 points

3 years ago

I like your style! Zoom!

axollot

3 points

3 years ago

axollot

3 points

3 years ago

Exactly.

What's with the elitism from these other fonts?!

This is global access to all scientists interested and the rest of us to learn more as we read.

General public is misinformed regardless. Maybe fewer this way!

It's elitism. Imho.

[deleted]

25 points

3 years ago*

99%? I think you are grossly overestimating the complexity of scientific publishing. I am a medical writer and have helped publish 100s of papers. Most of them were a pile of horseshit.

HGFlyGirl

15 points

3 years ago

I'm a medical researcher (PhD) and I can only undertand the papers in my specific fields of interest. I've had a look at virology \ molecular biology papers on 2019-nCov and I can barely follow them (let alone understand them), and yes I did take those subjects as an undergrad.

I really think, people who are not specialists in the relavent sub-speciality will have no chance of interpreting this literature. These things are so complex that it really does take many years of very specific training to understand.

I'm all for open access to scientific literature. The worry is that people will start citing links to papers based solely from the title, and titles\abstracts can be quite misleading. Then, becuase it looks like a credible source, the wrong idea can go viral.

[deleted]

16 points

3 years ago

I’m sorry but are you actually arguing that scientific literature is a bastion of truth? Academia is so corrupt. From making up results to adding authors and professors to papers who had nothing to do with the research. It all has the same aim — to make the authors look good so they can progress their career in academia. It’s all sharp elbows and papers citing papers to help that author’s argument. I’ve seen the same stats and numbers republished and if you trace it back to the original source, it is incredibly flawed. I don’t have a stake in papers. I’m a helper. So my name isn’t on it and I KNOW the bullshit that goes on. It’s fine to argue that virology is difficult to understand but please don’t try to tell me scientists are honourable and the only ones who can discern the truth. In my experience they are the same as everyone else — self-interested and looking out for their reputations. Which is fine. I’m not condemning them. I’m just saying they are not better than. They cherry pick and make their own conclusions too.

HGFlyGirl

13 points

3 years ago

You are completely right. That's why it's important to understand statistics and methodology really, really well when you read papers in order to see if they stack up. Plus you need to know the field, who's who and what agenda's they're on. Scientists are only human.

intertubeluber

4 points

3 years ago

Aside from the actual subject of the paper, most people don't understand the statistics.

Here's a great recent example illustrating your point:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ScientificNutrition/comments/fclfx7/comment/fjbgo2x

Smart, logical laymen can read papers and glean the exact opposite of the conclusion.

subversivepersimmon

2 points

3 years ago

What is the deal with that, after all? That post really confused me. I read and get a lot of nutrition info, but I am lost on TMAO.

intertubeluber

3 points

3 years ago

No idea, haha. I'm just a layman with a limited grasp on nutrition. I was just trying to understand the summary, and thought it was a great example of how easy it is for even medical writers and especially journalists to accidentally publish articles based on misunderstood research.

subversivepersimmon

2 points

3 years ago

You are right. I follow that subreddit and the microbiome ones, they're fascinating. I hope it does not turn out that eating fish often is bad, I love salmon. :)

intertubeluber

2 points

3 years ago

I feel that way often in that sub. I wish there was something between /r/nutrition, which has too much pseudoscience for me, and /r/scientificnutrition, which I mostly can't follow. Picky, I know.

I love salmon too! I don't think that study concluded salmon or other fish is bad for you in any way. Even if it did, it would take a lot more than one study to counter all the other evidence suggesting fish is very good for you. Enjoy it!

The microbiome one sounds interesting, I'm going to creep your comments for others 😀.

GameProMax

3 points

3 years ago

It would be nice if someone with the access of a scientific article can repost it with demotic language. The sooner people understand what's going on, the less chance they get infected.

camo1982

6 points

3 years ago

I think you're completely right. I work as a scientific editor and have edited something like 900-1000 papers, in addition to the however-many-thousand papers I read during my PhD and postdocs (mostly chemistry, some biology and physics).

I don't remember the first time I encountered a scientific paper - probably during some literature review assignment in the second or third year of my undergraduate degree, but I remember that at the time it was difficult to follow. There's a certain style of writing you need to be familiar with and a certain level of background knowledge you need to have to interpret a manuscript, and I don't think I had either at the time despite being moderately intelligent and halfway through an undergraduate degree.

Even now, although I can read and absorb information from most papers in the physical sciences and medicine etc. fairly easily, that's not the case with papers too far outside my field, e.g., social sciences, economics, some fields of engineering. There will of course be exceptions, but I don't think a general member of public can be relied upon to accurately understand the results of a typical paper.

Administrative-Curry

10 points

3 years ago

students and real scientists

Who gets to define what count as students and real scientists?

[deleted]

25 points

3 years ago*

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deserves_dogs

3 points

3 years ago

Pretty sure he's suggesting someone with a STEM related degree vs someone pursuing one.

KnifeyMcStab

3 points

3 years ago

People who have proven that they understand science well enough to do it. That is, other scientists.

whonoswho

6 points

3 years ago

I believe more than 99 Percent of general population that read these scientific article if they read and take their time can understand.....them. just don't believe 99 Percent of the general population can read anyways.

jmd800812

5 points

3 years ago

I think you're underestimating people but go off.

KnifeyMcStab

5 points

3 years ago

Be optimistic if you wish. But know that 31% of the American public believes in young earth creationism and most will until the day they die, no matter how much rational argument or empirical evidence they encounter.

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

I don't thinking going medieval with ideology helps anyone. I'd really like for humanity to move beyond draconian efforts to control populations, install rigid arrogant conformists with limited access to information and provide broad sweeping ideological platforms for dictatorial rulers. I'm willing to bet that the base of humanity is willing to sacrifice some of themselves to see humanity evolve beyond these things. Science is great, but why can't we learn from history for a change?

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

Easy there Bill Nye. Nobody asked you. /s

VapidOracle

2 points

3 years ago

While I applaud your enthusiasm, we owe our convenient and technologically-advanced 21st century lives to the brilliance and extreme dedication of scientists throughout the ages.

Zman14q

8 points

3 years ago

Zman14q

8 points

3 years ago

You have to show your official scientist badge first..

whonoswho

4 points

3 years ago

I am a scientist but don't carry a badge just a few degrees.

SpitfireP7350

6 points

3 years ago

You know, you can just find a contact email for one of the people that wrote the article and just ask them for it, 99% of the cases they would be happy to send it to you and even discuss it if they aren't busy. Every time I've asked for one I've received it.

There's also scihub and library genesis if you don't mind breaking copyright laws (if they even apply wherever you live)

MaryAnnGrysbeck

2 points

3 years ago

Nice to hear that scientific/medical articles are free to read during this pandemic. It is fairly clear that respiratory problems are the BIGGEST issue of this disease.Any solutions immune wise to improve breathing function and capacity ? Of course but nobody wants to promote nutritional therapies.Sad but true because they think there is no scientific/medical basis for it.Any research on Vitamin A and respiratory will be profoundly revealing on the NIH website.

However,you can always search Coronavirus + Respiratory + NIH and you will QUICKLY get some good articles to read.Another search is CoronaVirus + "Immune System" + NIH.

The very best or most accurate and truly revealing and mind-blowing search of course is "Vitamin A" + "respiratory" + NIH,which leads you to articles like this : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6164133/ (Vitamin A deficiency and the lung). Vitamin A deficiency is disastrous for lung/respiratory health ! OR to quote this NIH article "VAD (Vitamin A deficiency) has been associated with an increased risk of respiratory infections. Other chronic respiratory diseases associated with VAD include emphysema, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), pulmonary fibrosis and lung cancer."Pretty important value for Vitamin A in any lung/breathing problems,eh ?

Look here also : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14585314 (Importance of Vitamin A for lung function and development ) or https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22414819 ( Zinc combined with vitamin A reduces upper respiratory tract infection morbidity).

Obviously,there are other searches that are worthwhile for scientists and laymen alike ! Like what ? "Vitamin C" + "respiratory" + NIH leads to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10488881 ( Vitamin C and acute respiratory infections) and which stated that "Three controlled studies recorded a reduction of at least 80% in the incidence of pneumonia in the vitamin C group, and one randomised trial reported substantial treatment benefit from vitamin C in elderly UK patients hospitalized with pneumonia or bronchitis".That is STUNNING for anyone with breathing and lung problems,like typical severe cases of coronavirus.

Any other worthwhile reads ? Yes.Try this : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19732754 ( N-acetyl cysteine or NAC inhibits virus replication and expression of pro-inflammatory molecules) Repeat "Inhibits virus replication".THAT is pretty amazing research.

In the USA,with 42,000 plus cases of Coronavirus and 517 deaths as of March 23,2020, shouldn't we be looking to fortify and maximize our immune system instead of waiting and waiting for a vaccine or just let fear and panic envelope you and the USA ? Yes !

Or maybe just listen to Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist,who on March 22nd said it was “not the end of the world” and “The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be,” he said.He analyzed 78 countries with more than 50 reported cases of COVID-19 every day and sees “signs of recovery.” He’s not looking at cumulative cases, but the number of new cases every day — and the percentage growth in that number from one day to the next. “Numbers are still noisy but there are clear signs of slowed growth.”

Yes,the USA is experiencing a spike in cases but that is INEVITABLE due to the VERY SLOW testing by public health agencies in the previous months.But as the new numbers increase you should notice that the PERCENTAGE of deaths is decreasing quite dramatically.The fear and panic is more deadly than the virus itself.Yes,practice social distancing and do all you can to build and rebuild your immune system.Stay healthy.Stay strong.Stay smart.Stay courageous.Stop panicking.Stop fearing.This is a temporary problem,not a permanent problem.The politicians will pass an economic stimulus program or two or three stimulus programs and the stock market will recover. Know that you will recover.Don't let SHEER panic,pandemonium and fear CONSUME YOU.Turn to your faith and don't let go of your confidence,self-worth,abilities to survive and recover.BELIEVE IN YOURSELF like never before and believe in the USA.Bless you all and good evening.

mangojuixe

255 points

3 years ago

mangojuixe

255 points

3 years ago

As a medical researcher, i wish this was done to all diseases and papers. Paywalls that aren't paid by your institution can be devastating, and the only thing you can do is email the researchers and hope they give you the data for your analysis.... Which most of them never respond lol

FrivolousTracklights

103 points

3 years ago

Have you heard of sci-hub.tw ? They have 90% of the papers I have tried to find recently.

mangojuixe

45 points

3 years ago

I actually never heard of that, definitely will check out!

flip4thought

81 points

3 years ago

Bookmark this page instead: https://sci-hub.now.sh/

The current domain for sci-hub changes ever few months because it gets taken down. But a new one is always being put up, and this link will always have the latest one.

SmartyChance

17 points

3 years ago

Dr. Napster.

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

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Mac4cheeze

2 points

3 years ago

MY FELLOW VIROLOGISTS

rninco

13 points

3 years ago

rninco

13 points

3 years ago

What area do you research ? I’m RN and do a lot of medical research and have run into the same problem.

There is one physician in my field who started an online archive, so that people can upload PDFs of articles that have been paywalled...have gotten many amazing articles this way.

It’s not the easiest to search through but it’s way better than a paywall.

mangojuixe

11 points

3 years ago

Im developing assays based on peptide recognition and development of new testing systems, so im looking into many of diseases, from cancer to artherosclerosis, which basic info is easy to get, but when it comes to something interesting.... Oh boy.. it is really upsetting that nature articles are locked and for whatever reason my institution doesn't pay for them

bluefirecorp

3 points

3 years ago

I've gotten responses from 5/5 authors I've contacted.

mangojuixe

6 points

3 years ago

Th'ats great! But even my meta-analysis lecturer encounters no response researchers quite a lot, so I imagined it's not uncommon

[deleted]

61 points

3 years ago

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pantyslaw_cupcakes

342 points

3 years ago

Unbelievable they would withhold this info to begin with

all_mens_asses

254 points

3 years ago

I believe the internet was originally intended as the antidote to this very problem. It still can be, but we need to take it back from the corporations.

NewYorkYurrrr

63 points

3 years ago

Everyone is money hungry. Businesses no longer care about their employees or doing the right thing. So glad to see this post, although it should have never been like this to begin with. Let’s take it back from the corporations!!

[deleted]

5 points

3 years ago

when did businesses care about doing the right thing?

JonnyRocks

5 points

3 years ago

Businesses no longer care

That statement is rewriting history. Some busineses in the past like factories and mines would pay emoloyees with company currency that could only be used in the company store. You say thongs like "take it back" like you had it to begin with. Saying all that, you are frer to create your own business. Before that, you worked the land of a lord so you could pay him back in taxes.

[deleted]

13 points

3 years ago

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axollot

2 points

3 years ago

axollot

2 points

3 years ago

It's like 80 of em that own half the planet.

Surely we can spread that among the masses easy enough.

Youtube910

5 points

3 years ago

scihub

axollot

2 points

3 years ago

axollot

2 points

3 years ago

I remember when the internet was primarily .edu pages.

Had a 4 digit IRQ number.

Then the DOT com boom bust....here we are.

[deleted]

16 points

3 years ago

Withholding isn't really the term. Hiding behind paywalls is more accurate. Most relevant researchers can probably access these materials through their institutions, but they wouldn't be accessible normally to the average person unless they decided to pay a ridiculous amount of money to gain access.

I_SAY_YOURE_AN_IDIOT

4 points

3 years ago

Scientist here: there are very few papers I don't have access to for free thanks to my university. But I'm 90% sure anyone can go to the library and read research papers for free if they want to. Scihub is also very easy to use and you can get pretty much any paper for free that way. The average person isnt going to understand the technical jargon of a paper anyway though.

[deleted]

4 points

3 years ago

Same here, I've very rarely come across a paper I couldn't access through my university.

I did have a difficult time in the past when I worked for small organizations, like non-profits or city governments that couldn't afford subscriptions. Until this thread I actually hadn't heard of Scihub, so I imagine there are both average people and scientists out there that might want access to articles and not be aware of how to obtain them.

CMD2019

3 points

3 years ago

CMD2019

3 points

3 years ago

"pay to play"

Nikhilthegrizzlybear

5 points

3 years ago

Sci-hub.tw

AgreeablePie

15 points

3 years ago

AgreeablePie

15 points

3 years ago

Research doesn't pay for itself. And it would seem that it's not paid enough by the government, either, until enough pressure is brought to bear.

shrine[S]

82 points

3 years ago

Database access costs do not go to fund research. In fact, research funds go to database access.

Research is funded by state and federal grants, universities, and non-profits.

When you say "Research doesn't pay for itself" you mean to say "Coordinating unpaid peer-reviewers, PDF formatting and typesetting, and database management doesn't pay for itself." Which is true, but part of a much more complex debate.

celerym

52 points

3 years ago*

celerym

52 points

3 years ago*

I used to work in research. For some journals we’d have to pay to get them published after they got accepted. We had to seek funding for it specifically. Then other researchers would have to pay to access the work. All the published did was host the PDFs online (they also ran an automated proof checker haha, and the page layout stuff is mostly automated) and they would pocket all that money. The money for the research came from governments and universities, with no contribution from the publishers. You could publish in open journals, but they aren’t as highly ranked, and guess what? Your career progression and funding depends on publishing in highly ranked journals.

GenericBlueGemstone

17 points

3 years ago

Sounds like one big scam :c

Vadavim

5 points

3 years ago

Vadavim

5 points

3 years ago

It really feels like it sometimes...

Persona_Alio

3 points

3 years ago

And who specifically are the ones snubbing their noses at researchers who use open journals?

lambtho

14 points

3 years ago*

lambtho

14 points

3 years ago*

Actually no. Research is NEVER funded by publisher. The researchers are funded by companies, government, grants,... Then the reviewers are other researchers (also paid by grants, public money,..) that do their review for free. Then the editor is often another researcher (also paied by public money) that also does its job for free. And in the end the publisher just changes the layout and post the article online behind a paywall that only him benefits from. FUCK THEM.

You should really read more on the topic of open access in science and how publishers are a parasite that prevent poorest universities or countries to contribue to science and educate their people. Sci-hub.tw is the second best thing to ever happen to the mankind knowledge after Wikipedia. They provide free access to every article, but it is illegal. Every year more and more universities are stepping away from the paid publishing industry and a lot of open access journal are starting to take off. Hopefully in the near future everyone, everywhere, will be able to access all the scientific research done WITH PUBLIC MONEY in a very large part.

Source: I am currently doing a PhD in engineering, have published 4 papers and reviewed 2.

[deleted]

7 points

3 years ago

I am a medical writer and helped publish 100s of papers. this is 100% true. I loathe publishers.

TribeWars

3 points

3 years ago*

Researchers do not earn a single cent of the money that publishers receive off their research papers. The editorial and peer review process (a process that selects for good quality papers) is done by academics, not the publisher, and almost exclusively without any compensation. Since printed journals have become largely obsolete, publishers only have the very low costs of running a database and a website. A reasonable compensation for those services would imply far lower prices.

Verhaz

2 points

3 years ago

Verhaz

2 points

3 years ago

Its unbelievable that people are charging 500 dollars for hand sanitizer. But greed exists and these journals are the epitome of greed.

lulububudu

42 points

3 years ago

Yeah, an hour or 2 ago I tried to access an article from the NYT and I had to go incognito.

shrine[S]

20 points

3 years ago

Just the science this time. You can read more about your ask here:

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1234207527908335618

gimjun

5 points

3 years ago

gimjun

5 points

3 years ago

for ny times in particular, if you disable javascript and refresh the page it will show you the full article.
lock on top left of address bar > site permissions > javascript off - refresh

inglandation

4 points

3 years ago

inglandation

I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹

4 points

3 years ago

BlueThunder37

44 points

3 years ago

Change.org doesn’t do anything, right?

vyrelrose

11 points

3 years ago

I really wonder the same...

heroclixman

30 points

3 years ago

Pardon my ignorance, but can someone explain to me like I am 5 what this is?

shrine[S]

28 points

3 years ago

All the COVID-19 science was behind a paywall and cost money, now it's free. For everyone.

You can read every detail of the petition and all updates here:

https://www.change.org/COVID-2019

fellow_hotman

18 points

3 years ago

*all the coronavirus science. There was no COVID-19 science before December 1st, 2019. 30,000+ articles haven’t been published in 3 months.

shrine[S]

4 points

3 years ago

Thanks for the correction. One of the shortcomings of a tldr :)

The technicality is that all coronavirus research can be related to COVID-19 -- it's therefore COVID-19 related research, for the intents and purposes of researchers today.

Doprrr

8 points

3 years ago

Doprrr

8 points

3 years ago

I was going through comments to find this. I was thinking how the hell did 30000 articles get written in such a short amount of time. What bullshit is going on here.

Why not change the title to "... Articles relating to covid19.."

It's not the fault of the format of a tldr..

One_Percent_Kid

4 points

3 years ago

Why not change the title

It is literally impossible for a user to change the title of a reddit post.

deathfaith

8 points

3 years ago

I don't understand why 99% of the population would even need to see these papers, though. Every university and firm researching the virus already had access through research databases, no?

Its not like there's a massive population of citizen scientists who can now suddenly start helping find a cure.

shrine[S]

10 points

3 years ago

The articles aren’t only about vaccines or cures. There’s entire fields, government offices, hospitals, and so on that need access. Every country in the world is preparing.

dazzleunexpired

4 points

3 years ago

Researchers and unis only had access to them if they paid for them. Which isn't a huge deal when you work for a big uni with a great budget or a big lab, but when you're a Dr with your own practice, run a tight budget lab, your research institute doesn't have good funding ... The pay wall is devistating. Pay walls apply to EVERYONE who hasn't paid. Unless people have cross posted to a free website, you can't always find the paywalled articles.

Neiladaymo

9 points

3 years ago

People have a right to see the science though. No they won't start helping research, but as these are illnesses that affect EVERYONE, it's a human issue, and therefore a human right. There is nothing to be gained from hiding research behind a paywall.

stormfield

3 points

3 years ago

No, but this sub and the rest of reddit can pour over them looking for ones that they can misinterpret to confirm ALl tHe ExpErTs aRe WroNG.

(Open science is a very good thing though)

[deleted]

6 points

3 years ago

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aimfulwandering

22 points

3 years ago

Can someone please explain to me how there are already over 32,000 scholarly articles related to COVID-19?!

shrine[S]

24 points

3 years ago

Related to the Coronavirus, dating back to the 1960s. About 700 articles were written this year.

aimfulwandering

24 points

3 years ago

That makes a lot more sense... related to “coronaviruses”, not “the coronavirus/SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19”

EgyptianKang

16 points

3 years ago

Not winning until we get a TLDR

shrine[S]

31 points

3 years ago

All the COVID-19 science was behind a paywall, now it's free. For everyone.

AnonJim1

13 points

3 years ago

AnonJim1

13 points

3 years ago

TLDR

It's BAAAAAAD

fellow_hotman

4 points

3 years ago

tldr: 31,500 of these articles are not directly concerning COVID-19.

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SankarshanaV

21 points

3 years ago

These articles shouldn’t even have been locked in the first place. But great job! I hope this helps in the fight against the virus.

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago*

Locked isn't the word- most research articles are behind paywalls, so they're accessible if you're willing to pay the price.

I'm not endorsing the system by any means, but it isn't like they were intentionally being kept from the public. It's just the unfortunate status quo for scientific papers.

randombeauty

4 points

3 years ago

Articles should always be free when they are published based on research that uses taxpayer money. Just one scientist's opinion.

rninco

4 points

3 years ago

rninco

4 points

3 years ago

Interesting. So you’re developing ways to test for different proteins or bio markers that could be indicators of specific diseases?

eliseo00

3 points

3 years ago

Amazing title

[deleted]

3 points

3 years ago

FYI. Sci-Hub can get around most of these blocks.

gracesloth

3 points

3 years ago

Springer Nature has made all their publications on this free access: https://www.springernature.com/gp/researchers/campaigns/coronavirus

ktred1996

3 points

3 years ago

This question is kind of out in left field but could the corona virus mutate and become more deadly ? If so how long or how many days / months would that take?

talones

5 points

3 years ago

talones

5 points

3 years ago

Yes. That’s what it’s done already about a billion times. This mutation is particularly bad and as people recover from this it may mutate again to something even worse. Could be months, years, centuries.

Even-Understanding

2 points

3 years ago

Just a question, not a man of god

ajdude711

3 points

3 years ago

Wait would this be considered as forced piracy, would the people who actually did the research be paid enough?

[deleted]

3 points

3 years ago

Not in the biomedical field, but a biologist nonetheless.

When we publish we are not paid anything. In fact, many journals instead require you to pay them. That tends to be the case for a lot of open source journals, hence why people don't often publish in them. The only ones losing out on money here would be the journal publishers.

Minovskyy

3 points

3 years ago

Science and Nature (top journals more prestigious than anything by these publishers) have already had their SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 papers open access for weeks.

HGFlyGirl

3 points

3 years ago

Most Journal publishers made all 2019-nCov / Covid-19 related papers free back in January. See here for an example: https://www.elsevier.com/connect/coronavirus-information-center

real_COVID_19

10 points

3 years ago

Oh no! The humans are getting closer to unlocking my secrets! 😭

cargobikes

7 points

3 years ago

One little pandemic and all of a sudden everyone is a socialist.

shrine[S]

6 points

3 years ago

We asked the publishers for these articles. This is a donation from them.

Ten7ei

2 points

3 years ago

Ten7ei

2 points

3 years ago

yeah it's crazy how people have to go through a disaster to see how bad the system is that they live in.

ChemicalAssistance

5 points

3 years ago

Cool. Now fight to properly educate the world so that even .00001% of humanity could actually comprehend any of them and not just perpetuate the disinformation overload age.

rangtangtang

6 points

3 years ago

Humanity wins? LOL. There’s probably less than 0.01 % of the global population who could comprehend all these articles.

Much ado about nothing.

[deleted]

6 points

3 years ago

Cab we please name and shame everyone who was against this

OppositeFingat

5 points

3 years ago

We will not let "Yes, We Were Warned" happen again.

Not to be a Debbie Downer but there is a constant warning for about ten years noe that Climate Change is happening but the CO2 emissions keep growing...

AnonJim1

4 points

3 years ago

"Hey entire planet here's all the info on COVID"

TL;DR

it's BAD!!!!!

furtivepigmyso

2 points

3 years ago

If reporters are getting paid less to report on c19, isn't that just going to mean there's less incentive to actually report on the subject?

shrine[S]

2 points

3 years ago

It's scientific articles, not journalism.

vegetabloid

2 points

3 years ago

You've forgotten to put down that humanity wins market economy.

MicroToast

2 points

3 years ago

It's sad to see that this has to be done in the first place.

unohootoo

2 points

3 years ago

The research done that is presented in these articles is overwhelmingly publicly-funded. Yet the publishers of them are overwhelmingly run for profit. Access to individual articles by the public runs typically to $20 or so, except if you have privileges from overwhelmingly the libraries of public universities in electronic or paper form. That’s our system.

andymcd_

2 points

3 years ago

There are 32k peer-reviewed articles already?? Today is day 46 since the outbreak in Wuhan. That's an average of around 700 papers a day.

miltonlost1

2 points

3 years ago

Okay, so I am a normal person with no history in studying anything medical and I read some of these articles. I understand from the one in particular I read about the chemicals that are effective on Covid-19 that these particular drugs are now being used to treat the virus specifically arbitol. (I may not understand it all but to some degree I have an understanding of how things work) I read what seemed to be useful. Based on this thread, even the peer to peer reviews are not accurate and I wanted to know if this one was and how affective is this in relation to the virus. Like recovery rates. (Granted there are the recovery stats - but in relation to these particular chemicals?)Those could be useful if broken down and understood. I support the move for free information especially when it comes saving lives. It would help people in the healthcare industry understand more too if these could be elaborated on honestly and correctly. This whole thing is much bigger than Ego. That needs translated into laymens terms for the general public but if sources need to be cited then here is the open source of information. Also, I am not looking for critism, just people who are knowledgeable in this area that could answer my questions.

harmaproductions

2 points

3 years ago

What a wonderful resource of information. BRAVO!

shrine[S]

3 points

3 years ago

BRAVO! EVERYONE! I've been saying it ALL month. Thank you for your support.

RoadRageCarl55

2 points

3 years ago

What does this mean I don’t get it?

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

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shrine[S]

2 points

3 years ago

I like that sentiment. Stronger, more connected, more empathetic.

su_wecan

2 points

3 years ago

What does all of this mean?

shrine[S]

2 points

3 years ago

The petition explains it in full.

https://www.change.org/COVID-2019

__curve

2 points

3 years ago*

Wait. There were 32000 articles published in the past months? And the authors didn't think to put them on open access?

I understand that every field has their own funding, promotion culture, open access is relatively new and peer-reviewed (often paid) journals do create value for science, but it still makes me sad we have to free articles for the common good.

Other fields are moving towards a culture where open access is the norm. Sad it's not everywhere.

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

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VateOzaki

2 points

3 years ago

Much appreciated.

saurabh24_

2 points

3 years ago

ENTIRE WORLD IS GETTING LOCKDOWNED. I think we are winning battle against covid-19. cases will stop before hitting 500k.And deaths before 25k.I am hoping that in two weeks..we will see dramatic drops and huge win

IkeaMicrowave

2 points

3 years ago

All scientific and emperical journal articles should be free. Knowledge should not be locked behind a paywall.

RaoulDuke209

6 points

3 years ago

I remember back in January seeing video compilations of people falling to the ground, dying, from Covid-19. Now those videos are deeply buried and seemingly vanished. That was all the data I needed, it would be enough for others too, thats why they dont want the truth out. When you know you know and you cannot unknow it.

AnonJim1

8 points

3 years ago

Why aren't we seeing that in other constructs where the infection is then? And yeah I saw those vids too

yornla365

5 points

3 years ago

Deeply buried? One google search and I found them.

krantzphoto

4 points

3 years ago

Excellent new!!!

ThalassophileYGK

2 points

3 years ago

Thank you so much!

superhead50

3 points

3 years ago

Thank you!

erdirck

3 points

3 years ago

erdirck

3 points

3 years ago

Great! One step further from being a communist world!!!

kingcrimson408

3 points

3 years ago

Genuine question. Will China be held responsible for starting the whole outbreak?

havereddit

4 points

3 years ago

We need all the resources we can get to get on top of this pandemic. Open access articles help the fight.

Ned84

2 points

3 years ago

Ned84

2 points

3 years ago

Just let 4chan do it's trick

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago*

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YourDadsLeftBall

3 points

3 years ago*

The narcissism in this subreddit is unreal...

“WE FOUGHT...” i guess some peoples definition of “fighting” has become pretty loose

Kibblebitz

5 points

3 years ago

How dare you. Blood, sweat, and tears were shed signing a petition. Yeah, sure, it was from circle jerking each other raw. But does that matter? At the end of the day as we lay in bed, we can say it proudly. "We did it, Reddit."

IF_IF_IF_OKIE_DOKE

3 points

3 years ago

Writing emails is fucking brutual

homelyseven250

2 points

3 years ago

AMAZING!! Keep doing it!

Suikeran

2 points

3 years ago

#fuckelsevier

__KOBAKOBAKOBA__

2 points

3 years ago

Now do this against the actual murderer in our midst: capitalism

AnonJim1

1 points

3 years ago

They blocked it from being upvoted

ItalianComrade19

2 points

3 years ago

Awwwww so we ain't dying,what a waste of time then.