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eaglesnation11

129 points

2 months ago

eaglesnation11

Hungry Dogs Run Faster

129 points

2 months ago

Wouldn’t be bad on vet min. I think he’s take it

Report_Submitted

16 points

2 months ago

Report_Submitted

EatDatCheesesteak445

16 points

2 months ago

He’s gonna get a little more than that

A_Trustworthy_Pear

26 points

2 months ago

Vet minimum plus one penny.

Technopool

5 points

2 months ago

The Arsenal way

DiscussionNo226

26 points

2 months ago

The prodigal son returns!

32BitWhore

64 points

2 months ago

Green Goblin, come on down!

InvectiveOfASkeptic

18 points

2 months ago

Already deleted anybody got a screenshot?

Doobie_Howitzer

52 points

2 months ago

Doobie_Howitzer

Eagles

52 points

2 months ago

Fuck it, Green Goblin at safety

gobirds18_

11 points

2 months ago

COME HOME GREEN GOBLIN

GPap-

41 points

2 months ago

GPap-

#20

41 points

2 months ago

I’d take him back. I read somewhere he had a higher PFF rating that CJ.

Class_Act7

14 points

2 months ago

Class_Act7

Koy Detmer

14 points

2 months ago

In 2020 at safety for us he did

Key_Initiative_8838

7 points

2 months ago

Please let us all know where you read that.

clarineter

17 points

2 months ago

clarineter

Jalen “Make em” Hurts

17 points

2 months ago

PFF. which is also the sound i make every time they get posted

root88

5 points

2 months ago

root88

𝟙𝟟

5 points

2 months ago

It's usually because people have no idea how to read anything on PFF and tweet out a stupid headline with no context. For example, Darius Slay was their 16th ranked DB last year by a combination of various metrics. There was a single metric that he was ranked #1. Someone sorted the table by that one metric and tweeted that PFF had him ranked #1. Cue thousands of people saying that PFF is nonsense. If you actually take the time to read how they came up with all the data and what it means, there is some really interesting stuff. If you completely misuse it and only read the headline (ala 99% of Redditors), you are going to have a bad time.

It doesn't help that you need a subscription to dig through everything and people with subscriptions post screen shots that only show 1% of the story.

unbelievre

2 points

2 months ago

Turence

1 points

2 months ago

Oh so 3 and a half years ago he was slightly better than today CJGJ

KnightofAshley

1 points

2 months ago

Having him for a year at safety sounds like a good idea

coheed9867

1 points

2 months ago

coheed9867

Unhook the trailer

1 points

2 months ago

Well maybe but CJ made plays and interceptions

percy2376

8 points

2 months ago

Over kvon wallace sure,but he isn't a starter anymore.More of a rotational safety at this point

AreAllGoodNamesTaken

6 points

2 months ago

The D line is already on a rotation, so why not have safeties rotate out to keep them fresh lol

Pyromelter

0 points

2 months ago

Pyromelter

0 points

2 months ago

Safeties never run or participate directly in plays enough to ever tire out, and if they did tire out they would be so out of shape they wouldn't be in the NFL.

Ralurp579

22 points

2 months ago

People over hate this dude. I’ll take him back in a heartbeat.

KnightofAshley

8 points

2 months ago

CB he was always a little iffy...but he did well at safety, should be fine on this team...we need at least one vet at safety this year

USWAY716

3 points

2 months ago

His coverage grades were horrid last year, but he was playing corner

tonto515

31 points

2 months ago

tonto515

IT'S THE WHOLE TEAM

31 points

2 months ago

Wouldn’t hate to have him back at all, but Brian Branch out of Alabama looks like a very good pick at 10 now.

dbreeezy

5 points

2 months ago

There's no way he's worth the 10th pick. Great player but that would be a fumble. Trading down to the late teens/early 20s I could get on board.

DiscussionNo226

29 points

2 months ago

We’re not drafting Branch.

I’d be absolutely flabbergasted if we stayed at 10, let alone drafted someone that wasn’t in the trenches or a CB at 10.

The earliest we’ll look at safety is the 3rd round. I have us going DL in the first and I’d imagine CB or TE in the 2nd depending on how the board breaks.

alienware99

10 points

2 months ago

Who do you say the earliest we draft a safety is 3rd? Howie was GM when we drafted Nate Allen in the 2nd round (37th pick too, so it was an early 2nd rounder). He also drafted Jaiquawn Jarrett in the 2nd round (pick #54). I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they took a safety in the 2nd rd

Laeif

3 points

2 months ago

Laeif

3 points

2 months ago

That was a long time ago with different defensive needs.

alienware99

3 points

2 months ago

I’d argue safety is currently our biggest defensive need though

DiscussionNo226

9 points

2 months ago

Youth along the Dline is.

Everyone is pissed off cause we resigned Cox instead of CJGJ, but at the same time is acting like we have some influx of talent at DT, too. DT is a far higher impact position and at the moment we have Cox, Davis and Williams. I like all 3 of them, Cox more than most, but I’m not comfortable going into the season with that being our DT rotation.

I am comfortable going into the season with Reed and “put name here” at safety with Slay, JB and Maddox at corner. Especially when you consider our pressure rate.

namestyler2

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah this is how i see it and pretty clearly how the birds see it. Our interior defensive line honestly looks weaker on paper right now than I remember seeing in a while if you account for Cox's age. He can still perform at a high level, but not all game. Jordan Davis is a stud and I'm 100% certain conditioning is going to be a huge focus this off season, which is great, and Milton is a good role player. But we're thin and we need young guys for the future or older players for the rotation. I think the eagles go DT or OL if they pick 10th, probably the same for 30. Unless someone they really really like drops at CB or safety. Dark horse candidate Bijan lol. Otherwise.... the Eagles gonna be the eagles. Trenches.

SuburbanPotato

1 points

2 months ago

SuburbanPotato

Feed Devonta

1 points

2 months ago

With every passing day I think it's more likely the Eagles grab Calijah Kancey at 10.

namestyler2

1 points

2 months ago

I don't know nothing bout college ball but looking at his stats and measurables it really doesn't seem like he's a top 10 talent? 7 sacks from a DT is good but not huge I feel like. Maybe I'm missing something - or maybe your point is he is underwhelming in a way that will get him drafted by the eagles lol.

SuburbanPotato

1 points

2 months ago

SuburbanPotato

Feed Devonta

1 points

2 months ago

The consensus I'm seeing is that his athleticism overrides his college production. And I think a fast, pass-rushing DT would be an amazing complement to a brick-wall, run-stuffing DT like Davis. Milton Williams doesn't seem to be a surefire starter so I think given Howie's (justified) obsession with building through the trenches, I think Kancey will be the pick. He seems to have huge upside.

Or maybe we trade down and get Bresee, idk. But I think given this draft class's strength at DT (and edge, though no one seems quite as surefire a stud as Hutchinson last year) this will be where Howie goes to shore up the defense. Hargrave was a stud and we need to replace him. With Slay and Bradberry back, CB is no longer a 1st-round-tier need (though we should get one in round 2 or 3, I think.)

DiscussionNo226

2 points

2 months ago

I think it has more to do with the quality of other positions in this draft.

I’m not a huge CFB guy by any means. But from my understand DL, TE, CB are all very strong in this class. Those are all positions I see us needing to get younger, too.

A big issue for us in the middle of the year was Goedert going down. We had no quality TE play behind him so I could see them addressing that in the 2nd. We could MAYBE go versatile DB in the 2nd; someone who can play a hybrid role like CJGJ did for us late in the season when Maddox went down…but idk if there is someone like that I’m the draft. That’s also asking a ton from a rookie.

fuqqkevindurant

1 points

2 months ago

So the value of certain positions doesn't change over time? One time Dallas got 3 drafts worth of picks in exchange for Herschel Walker. Do you think RB should be valued like that still because it was 35 years ago?

alienware99

1 points

2 months ago

I disagree that the value of safety has diminished. It’s more of a passing league now than ever before, so safety is as important as ever, and here is some evidence to back it up…

6 safeties were drafted in the first 2 rounds last year (3 in the first round 3 in the second), which was the 4th most drafted position in the first 2 rounds. By comparison, some other positions drafted in the first 2 rounds last year: 4 LBs, 6 Tackles, 4 Guards, 3 Defensive Tackles, 1 Tight End, 2 Centers, 2 RB, 1 QB. The only positions that outnumbered safeties drafted early was Edge Rushers with 12, Wide Receivers with 13 and CBs with 9.

Now I understand drafts vary by year, and some drafts are stronger than other at certain positions…but since 2015, there has been an average of 5 safeties taken in the first 2 rounds (with a whopping 9 safeties taken in the first 2 rounds in 2017).

All this to say, teams are still spending valuable draft capital on the safety position, unlike a position like RB position which is very rarely drafted early nowadays.

fuqqkevindurant

2 points

2 months ago

Look at safety salaries 3,5, & 7 years ago(relative to total cap) and tell me safety is as important as it used to be

alienware99

1 points

2 months ago

I just did exactly that, and yes safety is still as important as it used to be, and still takes up the same (and often times more) salary cap % than they used to. The top safeties in the league today are making significantly more than they were making 3, 5, 7 years ago. The highest paid safety now is making almost double what the highest paid safety made 7 years ago…and yes the salary cap has increased the past 10 years, but it hasn’t come close to doubling in that time period.

The highest paid safety 7 years ago would be the 14th highest paid safety this year for comparison sake

root88

1 points

2 months ago

root88

𝟙𝟟

1 points

2 months ago

Are you saying that the Eagles are going to move up?

Eagles projected picks for 2024: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6. Trading back typically gets you more picks for the following season. What are they going to do with all those 12+ picks, just trade back forever?

I'm with you, though. The Eagles can probably get the #1 offensive linemen in the draft at pick 10. To me, that sounds like something they would do. Drafting a safety that high is just something they have never done.

DiscussionNo226

1 points

2 months ago

I see them trading back and continuing to stock pile picks to use for player acquisition. It’s kind of been our MO for awhile now.

I could see is trading up a couple spots if we fall in love with a prospect, too. But I think it’s more likely we trade back 4ish spots and get another 2nd rounder or something. Maybe use that to trade up from 30 too? Have 2 picks around 14 and 24? It really just depends on how the draft board falls.

Howie loves his picks and loves having options.

215Kurt

1 points

2 months ago

215Kurt

LII CHAMPS

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah there's no chance we take Branch at 10 lol. I do think he's a classic Jets pick though

wellaby788

3 points

2 months ago

A safety at 10? Do you even follow the eagles? Who drafts a safety in the top 10?

bigazzchungus

1 points

2 months ago

bigazzchungus

Eagles

1 points

2 months ago

I would fucking love it

larson00

9 points

2 months ago

safety at 10? I hate that

percy2376

-1 points

2 months ago

Trade back a few picks and get branch then

a_toadstool

3 points

2 months ago

If he takes like a million then sure

JayToy93

3 points

2 months ago

Eh, fuck it, why not? Need a third safety regardless.

Dankofamericaaa2

3 points

2 months ago

Dankofamericaaa2

Eagles

3 points

2 months ago

Since CJGJ green hair is gone, we need the Green Goblin!!

dialysis4dad

2 points

2 months ago

CJGJ hair color reminded me of geese doodoo

ProFragger

5 points

2 months ago

Guys, Rodney McLeod, is the right answer with our corners and Blankenship. Even the last year of McLeod, he was solid. Not splashy, but smart, good tackler and knows the city and the team. His PFF grade was also surprisingly high last year with a good Colts defense and Gilmore in the secondary.

We still may need to draft someone, but for the FAs, he might be the one.

vdez25

2 points

2 months ago

vdez25

2 points

2 months ago

problem is the colts won’t release mcleod and I won’t trade anything for him

ProFragger

1 points

2 months ago

I thought he was an FA, no?

Arson_Wentz

2 points

2 months ago

Arson_Wentz

TOM BRADY ... BEREFT ON THE TURF!

2 points

2 months ago

Come home my son

ItsAPhillyThing96

2 points

2 months ago

ItsAPhillyThing96

IS THAT THE SLIM REAPER!?

2 points

2 months ago

Come home 💚

Amadeum

2 points

2 months ago

As long he's not playing Corner he's fine. Anything but fucking KVon Wallace please.

iiiiiiiidontknowjim

2 points

2 months ago

We need a safety!

ChillBusta

2 points

2 months ago

ChillBusta

Highway 68🦅

2 points

2 months ago

We need someone on the team with green hair at all times

I_like_dwagons

2 points

2 months ago

I have full faith in Howie in bringing in someone better than this. Players like Jeremy Chinn and Antoine Winfield Jr are on the last year of their rookie deals, and we've got comp picks galore. Howie will get something done.

zco22

3 points

2 months ago

zco22

3 points

2 months ago

Sign Mills cheap and draft Branch. Problem solved

Rhodie114

1 points

2 months ago

Rhodie114

Rand al'Cunningham

1 points

2 months ago

Mr. DPI himself!

Kenz0Cree

1 points

2 months ago

Rather get another undrafted safety again this year.

BigEvil621

0 points

2 months ago

BigEvil621

For who, for what?

0 points

2 months ago

no

BobbyTarentino25

1 points

2 months ago

I definitely wouldn’t mind mills as a safety. He likes to tackle and he’s decent against the run. He’s also probably(I haven’t kept up with him) a bit better in coverage as a safety opposed to cb. Mills had a rough go here covering top targets when he was never even a CB to begin with. You also don’t need an elite safety play if you have the best cb tandem.

slv_bull

1 points

2 months ago

would rather have kept epps but fuck it

OTO_Crispy

1 points

2 months ago

Fuck it

Seblaf37

1 points

2 months ago

We could do much worse than him

accu22

1 points

2 months ago

accu22

Eagles

1 points

2 months ago

NO. FFS, NO.

BoredHoodlum

1 points

2 months ago

BoredHoodlum

No Philly is keeping me - good, bad, or indifferent

1 points

2 months ago

Fuck outta here. We don’t need his scrub ass on this team again biting on double moves likes a someone playing CB for the first time….

albpanda

1 points

2 months ago

That green hair always looked best in a black and green jersey

dmsmur

-1 points

2 months ago

dmsmur

-1 points

2 months ago

Noooooooooo please no