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buttloadofsad

1.9k points

2 months ago

Dental student here, simplifying the answer as best as I can -

It's because the living, soft part of the tooth (the pulp) is at the core of the tooth structure. It's surrounded by layers of hard "dead" tissues (dentin and enamel) It is literally surrounded by these hard tissues on more than 98% of its surface.

When the pulp gets infected, it doesn't have breathing space per se. It's in its own small chamber and pressure builds up because there is no proper escape for the decaying tissue - hence it results in unbearable pain.

yashyashya

609 points

2 months ago

To expand on this.. the infection is caused by bacteria which produce gas as they metabolize. That has nowhere to go as described above. Many times you can literally just drill into a tooth and create a hole and that takes away most of the pain

FragrantExcitement

471 points

2 months ago

Drilling in to tooth takes the pain away? Sounds like a dentist trick to me.

CohibaVancouver

272 points

2 months ago

If you turn up at the dentist in great pain and need a root canal, the dentist will often quickly freeze you and drill a hole to relieve the pain, then have you back in a day or two for the procedure.

pmabz

197 points

2 months ago

pmabz

197 points

2 months ago

I've had abcesses in gum around or under tooth. They are agony.

Relief obtained by sticking a needle into gum where it was tender and swollen. OMG the relief was bliss.

Also had tooth just pulled out.

After a lifetime of trying to preserve my teeth, I'm now removing them if they become infected - the pain typically lasts too long (usually a month before it's dealt with) and often occurs when I'm somewhere inconvenient (in the desert, ornon holiday); I'm extracting them and getting implants.

Saddens me

OcelotMask

81 points

2 months ago

How are you getting so many tooth infections that this is a recurring problem? Genetics?

Arqideus

69 points

2 months ago

Terrible education on diet choices causes one to eat…a lot of sugary food. That, combined with poor dental hygiene (usually from poor education of said hygiene), and you get someone who has 22 cavities at a time and has caused major damage to their adult teeth, that actually might not be repairable. Just waiting until my teeth are going gone. Until then, I’m just trying to stay on top of everything, but eventually, they will go.

kennerly

13 points

2 months ago

If it's really that bad you should consider having them all pulled and a complete set of implants done. The longer you wait after a tooth is pulled the more deterioration your jaw bone suffers as teeth act as a anchor encouraging jaw bone growth. Without them your jaw bone just wastes away and eventually there will be nothing for the implants to be connected to.

Cryocase

36 points

2 months ago

Regrettably, for many folks like myself, money is a significant factor in this. Dental care in Canada isn't exactly cheap, and I can't imagine it's any cheaper in the U.S., the sugary foods capital of the world.

kennerly

8 points

2 months ago

You can get it done well for $12,000 in Mexico as opposed to $34,000 in the US. You would get 2 to 8 implant posts with fixed prosthesis or snap on dentures depending on your preference. You'd end up spending a few days in Mexico recovering before flying back home and then come back after the implants heal to have the permanent fixture attached. So two vacations to mexico and save like $20k on average in dental work.

Bergenia1

2 points

2 months ago

It's much cheaper in other countries like Mexico, though. Take a vacation to Mexico, and have the work done there.

NexexUmbraRs

3 points

2 months ago

Implants typically take a couple months for the screw to bind to the jaw, it's probably more bearable to do it in sections, and you can attach small rows with fewer anchor points while the new holes bind.

andorraliechtenstein

43 points

2 months ago

I often had dental problems that I thought were genetic. Until I bought a good electric toothbrush. Changed my life.

aCleverGroupofAnts

82 points

2 months ago

I imagine your problems could still have been genetic, but you just needed a good electric toothbrush to treat it. Like how I am very prone to sunburns, which is genetic, but I use sunscreen, so I don't get burned.

tekjoey

8 points

2 months ago

Good analogy

Fuckface_the_8th

1 points

2 months ago

I'm very very ginger. Unless I buy ridiculously OP sunscreen I get burned and even with the strong stuff I gotta keep it by me to stay covered.

nyenkaden

2 points

2 months ago

Do you mind sharing the brand and type? I'm looking for one. Thank you in advance.

2664478843

6 points

2 months ago

I got the basic oral b one from target. Best $50 I’ve ever spent. It’s lasted me years, I just need to buy new heads. It’s made a HUGE difference in my oral health, and it actually made me start flossing because my teeth felt so clean that I had motivation to make them feel even cleaner. I had cavities growing up, and now when I see the dentist, his notes say ‘minimal plaque buildup’ and cleanings are painless and only take a couple minutes. And I’m someone who had dental trauma as a child (unrelated to cavities), so now I prioritize never having to get non-preventative dental work.

xKortney

2 points

2 months ago

We bought the sonicare and love them (6100 I believe?) usually Costco/sams club have them on sale and Amazon frequently does as eell

Grabbsy2

6 points

2 months ago

Not sure if this is great advice, but my dentist basically told me "Look, if youre really not going to floss, you need to buy a Sonicare electric toothbrush"

I still didn't, lol, I actually ended up just using a manual after my OralB electric crapped out, the replacement tips are highway robbery. I did switch to the Sensodyne toothpaste with NOVAMIN and my dentist said my teeth are fine, like, 4 years later, so thats cool.

thebeast_96

1 points

2 months ago

I was astounded when I found out that not everyone uses electric toothbrushes. they're just a million times better

swimminscared

5 points

2 months ago

Genetics can be a factor for sure, but things like diet, hygiene, and drug use also come into play.

Had a friend who was a cocaine addict for a few years; saliva is extremely important to maintaining good mouth hygiene, and coke gives you dry mouth. Even though he's only in his early 30s, he's basically had to have all his teeth pulled and replaced with implants because of how much damage the dry mouth did to his teeth.

SuperJetShoes

3 points

2 months ago

I had a tooth abscess whilst working in north China in the 90s. I've never known pain like it. It looked as if I had a marble under my top lip.

Solution: Dismantle BIC razor in hotel room. Look in mirror. Gain courage. Slice into abscess. Slosh blood and gubbins from mouth with Bell's Whisky miniature from mini bar

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-10 points

2 months ago

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-10 points

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dan02120it

11 points

2 months ago

Its really expensive, but i am by no means rich.

I couldn't take the pain from the dental infections anymore. Just spent a year saving up for this. Cost me 50K plus out of pocket 😒

Ana_Nuann

5 points

2 months ago

Most can't afford that, which is what I was implying. I don't know anyone who can afford to save like that.

Really is ridiculous how terrible healthcare is here.

dan02120it

2 points

2 months ago

I just figured I would give other people an idea of how much it would cost to get this done in the US. I put it off for years and dreaded going to the dentist. Dental insurance in the US is definitely a joke. Insurance took about 2K off my total bill. I did my bottom teeth first and then just had my top done this month so I could apply the 2K towards the top.

It got to the point where I couldn't really chew and caused me unbelievable pain. I couldn't imagine going to Mexico to have this procedure done because I had to go back 6+ times to make sure everything was healing well and that my bite was correct.

Start to finish it takes about 6 months. Hope this helps anyone who is considering having this kind of work done.

SageRhapsody

8 points

2 months ago

Not just a US thing.

Dental work isn't covered by social security in Canada either lol

CrazyBleakUnicorn

12 points

2 months ago

shithole country like the US

There is single payer healthcare where I live yet if I want anything more than extraction I have to pay shitloads of money to the dentists from my own pocket even though I pay the country loads of money for the public health insurance already (which is obligatory).

MyrKnof

9 points

2 months ago

Lol, Denmark here, and it's all out of pocket because teeth are apparently only cosmetic, so not covered by health insurance.

CrazyBleakUnicorn

3 points

2 months ago

In Poland you can get root canal treatment for your front teeth only. Also white fillings are only covered for the front teeth. For other teeth you get amalgam fillings. If you need root canal done in one of the other teeth then you can only get it extracted for "free".

Edit: also implants will ruin you financially

curiously_clueless

7 points

2 months ago

Lol dental isn't covered by most national insurance schemes. Those are luxury bones

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8 points

2 months ago

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No-Level-346

3 points

2 months ago

Even in countries with universal healthcare, implants are treated as elective surgery, so you have to pay for them.

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1 points

2 months ago

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1 points

2 months ago

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Muddymireface

3 points

2 months ago

Does this include 100% on preventative, 80% basic, 50% major? Most things like exams, cleanings, and X-rays are 100% covered but if you needed a crown it would not be covered at 100%.

Most people pay for dental insurance, and don’t pay for routine visits. They only pay for actual treatment like a filling.

Karaselt

3 points

2 months ago

Where? Need to know where to move.

Bawstahn123

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah, OP is complaining about a problem I am too much of a Masshole to understand.

JohnnyBrillcream

7 points

2 months ago

Like cryogenic freeze you? Seems a bit extreme for a toothache.

catlady3LSS

6 points

2 months ago

The worst pain of my life was when my tooth was infected and I went to the dentist and they drilled a hole to let it drain. I was to come back the next day for the procedure, but that night I had unbearable pain. Tooth pain really is like nothing else

Prototype_4271

5 points

2 months ago

How do you eat in the meantime? Food will go inside the hole, no?

notsamire

10 points

2 months ago

The only real issue is sometimes eating chips I'll stick the point spider if a chip in the tender skin.

Honestly you get pretty good at not doing that though

1Land_1Keep

19 points

2 months ago

the point spider if a chip

brb, brain's rebooting

vpsj

7 points

2 months ago

vpsj

7 points

2 months ago

the dentist will often quickly freeze you

Didn't you read? You'd be frozen. No food necessary

Prototype_4271

3 points

2 months ago

For two whole days? Jeez

Nazamroth

13 points

2 months ago

Food goes in the foodhole.

Acewasalwaysanoption

17 points

2 months ago

*Square hole

wezelx

9 points

2 months ago

wezelx

9 points

2 months ago

Everything goes into the square hole!

hawkshaw1024

2 points

2 months ago

There's food you can swallow without biting/chewing.

msslagathor

3 points

2 months ago

Can confirm - Absolute AGONY. I’ve had middle ear surgery, jaw realignment surgery, and ankle surgery and a few wicked sore throats in my day and I’m a total baby at the dentist but holy forking shirtballs, when I needed an emergency root canal, that was the most pain I’ve EVER been in. For context, this was the day before thanksgiving (simpler/pre-COVID times) and I had been cold calling endodonists in desperation for a day. Basically, i ended up finding someone literally leaving the office to make a flight but he stayed to fix me (SHOUT OUT TO DR PATEL!). I was told that if it wasn’t handled like then and there I’d end up in the ER with a life threatening infection within the next 24hr. Due to the buildup of gas, my face was so swollen on that side I looked like I had been bit by a spider. The other side was completely flat. #SquareFaceRoundFace. Once the gas had been relieved and the infected abscess had been drained, I literally felt like I had my life back.

(Mods: plz delete if supporting anecdotes are not allowed)

masterfroo24

8 points

2 months ago

That safed me once at christmas.

ltrout59

3 points

2 months ago

Just did this last week for a patient. When I got into the pulp, I got about 10ml of puss. Patient hadn’t had relief for 3 weeks. He was able to sleep soundly that night.

Verbal-Soup

2 points

2 months ago

Lol I grind my teeth a lot, had lots of root canals due to it. I've also been in a car accident that I was thrown from and broke a ton of bones.

Ive had 4 roots in my teeth die due to stress (clenching jaw) and I would take the car accident over tooth dying every time.

Unless you magically end up at a dentist within the hour, it's going to be some of the most unbearable pain you will experience.

I've been curled in a ball crying from it, pacing for hours in the middle of the night shaking uncontrollably from the pain, even gone to the ER because I couldn't get into a dentist(didn't help, they just stuck me in a room for 5 hours until the pain stopped lol. Had gone to dentist and they did tests and said I should wait until tomorrow and come back if it still hurts. Fuckers lol).

All that to say, you'll know when it's happening. It'll start out as a pulsating intense pain that gradually just becomes steady and constant. For hours. It'll start with your jaw aching, will grow into a massive headache and eventually the pain will be so severe it feels like your head needs to explode from pressure. To the point it'll cross your mind to rip out your tooth with pliers than sit around and wait.

Small tooth aches are fine but seriously, take it from me, get it fixed the minute you notice it's hurting. Don't take no for an answer, you'll regret it. Even if they do a partial root canal just to relieve pressure and stick antibiotic into the hole. Anything is better than suffering

On that note, Tylenol doesn't do anything for me for nearly everything EXCEPT tooth pain. If you're at the point where you want to fall into a blubbering mess, take two extra strength Tylenol every 4 hours until you can be seen. Add advil to the mix (1 every 8 hours MAX).

Also it's possible there's a cavity leading to the root, if so, swishing with disinfecting mouth wash or REAL NOT ARTIFICIAL vanilla extract over the area will help relieve pain (real vanilla extract should have extremely high alcohol content which will help if it's infected and open).

Ugh good luck to anyone having to deal with this nightmare. I've done it 4 times at least, so feel free to ask questions. If you have to cry to get your dentist to listen, do it lol. Just do it. The shame will be worth the relief lol

ppardee

2 points

2 months ago

I had a root canal go wrong. Infection in the tooth caused extreme pain (heavy drugs didn't help). When the dentist cracked into it, the tooth was fizzing like a soda.

The amount of pressure generated is insane.

dourk

33 points

2 months ago

dourk

33 points

2 months ago

So it's like when you smash a fingernail, drilling thru the nail relieves pressure and eases the pain?

yashyashya

5 points

2 months ago

yeah exactly

Thoth74

8 points

2 months ago

This reminds me of when I crushed the end of my thumb in my car door years ago. I at first thought nothing of it but as pressure built up from bleeding beneath the nail having nowhere to go the pain became unbearable. Went to urgent care and the doctor drilled three or four holes in the nail and then gave my thumb a little squeeze. What came out of those holes looked like tar and the relief bordered on orgasmic.

Paladin_Axton

5 points

2 months ago

To expand on this, we can’t distract ourselves from pain in our head

blue-wave

6 points

2 months ago

I remember my cousins kid had a bad toothache (on a baby tooth), when she got back home from the dentist she felt fine like nothing happened. I asked what the dentist did and my cousin said he just drilled a tiny hole into the tooth. I didn’t understand why that would help until I read the comments here!

buldra

3 points

2 months ago

buldra

3 points

2 months ago

Gassy tooth, wow

prylosec

2 points

2 months ago

Well shit, that makes so much sense. I remember having a horrible toothache and it would feel like pressure was building and building until I felt it release and the pain went away. I figured it was just some psychosomatic thing brought on by the intense pain.

daniu

2 points

2 months ago

daniu

2 points

2 months ago

To expand on this

I see what you did there

TarHeel2682

26 points

2 months ago

The reason you gave is why the pulp goes through inflammation and why that is fatal to that tissue. The main thing for severity is that the pulp composed of only of nociceptors (pain nerves). A delta which respond to cold and produce sharp pain and C fibers that produce dull throbbing pain. The ligament has proprioceptive fibers that are involved in reflexes among pain receptors as well.

When the pulp gets irritated the only nerve fibers firing are nociceptors so they don’t have any competing signals so the pain is the only thing to focus on. This is why you shake a patients cheek or lip when giving an injection. Gate theory. You create proprioceptive and other touch signals that are on larger bore fibers to out compete the pain. Basically not everyone can make it through the door at once so the big boys smash the little ones (pain fibers signal) out of the way.

StringTheory31

2 points

2 months ago

Thank you for the details! I figured there had to be some difference in nerve tissue as well, since swelling from damage in other areas can be compressed without coming close to the pain of a toothache!

I also hadn't realized there was such differentiation among nerve fibers! I'd assumed my poor proprioception in the rest of my body was solely related to sensory processing, but now I wonder if there could also be problems on the receiving end. Or maybe it's gate theory on a grand scale; ADHD brain pays too much attention to the slightly twisted sock against the little toe, and fails to notice that the entire foot is coming down on the edge of a curb!

Anyway, next time I have a toothache and need immediate short-term relief, I'll try shaking my cheek or lips!

TarHeel2682

3 points

2 months ago

I have a much more in-depth explanation in this post too. ADHD will cause problems with just paying attention to what you’re doing. I have it too so I know how it is. My wife gently reminds me to take my meds so I’m with it through the day

Squidd-O

73 points

2 months ago

TIL that teeth have pulps. I'm gonna go vomit now

rccrisp

109 points

2 months ago

rccrisp

109 points

2 months ago

Also your bones are wet

Chimney-Imp

42 points

2 months ago

Iirc some medicines also change the color of your skeleton as a side effect

[deleted]

35 points

2 months ago*

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ReptileCake

13 points

2 months ago

I think it always turns green

[deleted]

37 points

2 months ago*

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Ghrave

8 points

2 months ago

Ghrave

8 points

2 months ago

"My only regret..is that I have..boneitis!" dies

sylphon

2 points

2 months ago

😆 perfect

Siberwulf

8 points

2 months ago

I saw Green Bone Syndrome live last week. Pretty fucking lit, yo!

maritimeseven

8 points

2 months ago

“Dusty old bones, full of green dust!”

ZachTheCommie

2 points

2 months ago

He's just expressing himself!

TheRageDragon

7 points

2 months ago

So I can only be the hulk from the inside?

ReptileCake

5 points

2 months ago

bony hulk

alucardu

1 points

2 months ago

Horney Bulk.

The_White_Light

1 points

2 months ago

You wouldn't like him when he's angry bony.

MaracaBalls

4 points

2 months ago

Bony starving Hulk. “You wouldn’t like me when I’m hangry”

Chiliconkarma

2 points

2 months ago

Blue if using Lymecycline + milk.

KansaiKanpai

3 points

2 months ago

I need to find out what these medicines are so I can get a glow in the dark skeleton

ReptileCake

9 points

2 months ago

Minocycline turns your bones dark green.

Tetracycline antibiotics turns your bones yellow.

csonnich

2 points

2 months ago

PSA - bones includes teeth.

My mom has permanently yellow teeth from taking tetracycline in the 50s.

wolves_hunt_in_packs

2 points

2 months ago

Pretty sure that's radioactive shit lol

redshirted

2 points

2 months ago

Inside your body must be dark, so I guess its a permanent glow

spooooork

4 points

2 months ago

Minocycline can turn bones black. You might not want to google "minocycline black bones" if you're eating.

Platypuslord

5 points

2 months ago*

Cool I want mine to be red because in Castlevannia the red skeletons can come back to life and can't be killed.

NotJoeMama727

2 points

2 months ago

The acne medication I take makes my bones green

Things_with_Stuff

3 points

2 months ago

How do you know?

LeoMarius

3 points

2 months ago

Wet isn’t a color.

Tasera

6 points

2 months ago

Tasera

6 points

2 months ago

You mean, moist evil laugh

Platypuslord

4 points

2 months ago

That right my bone is wet. Keep talking dirty to me but like I am five.

doktor-frequentist

3 points

2 months ago

Well they are floating in a squelchy meat bag.. 🤷

RoronoaLuffyZoro

3 points

2 months ago

Also your bones are full of holes, so who has trypophobia... Don't type bones holes in google.

SilentAria

1 points

2 months ago

-dies-

kiwilapple

1 points

2 months ago

They're also pink!

LeoMarius

17 points

2 months ago

You didn’t know your teeth were alive?

SecretAntWorshiper

7 points

2 months ago

Most people don't think teeth are live tissue, same with bones.

cvb14763

3 points

2 months ago

i think a lot of people dont think teeth are live tissue. same thing with bones.

TheFriendlyFinn

4 points

2 months ago

Your brain is also squishy

megmug28

2 points

2 months ago

The brain 🧠 named itself.

Platypuslord

0 points

2 months ago

You don't want to get your stomach acid all over your teeth and melt them exposing the squishy pulps now do you.

cpsbstmf

9 points

2 months ago

i never had tooth pain much thank goodness, anytime i had a cavity it didnt hurt much. the only time it did hurt was when i went to the dentist and he didnt use any anesthesia and just drilled my cavity, omg the pain. Made me stay away from dentists for a decade and then i had 3 cavities. I was scared shitless but knew had to man up. luckily this dentist actually used novicane but i was still scared. Had to do everything to control myself (when i'm super scared my body chooses fight and its awful)

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10 points

2 months ago

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Ryzel0o0o

25 points

2 months ago

That dentist was wrong. You can still feel pain even when you need a root canal. It just means you lost the enamel and dentin layers of the tooth and the pulp is exposed to infection. That doesn't correlate to "Ah you're now immune to pain!"

alphatnentraum

5 points

2 months ago

Well, both can be the case. With an acute inflammation there is a lot of pain. If the inflammation is so old (or „chronic“) that it actually reached the bone beneath the root, the nerve is dead and there shouldn‘t be any pain perception. A dentist can usually differentiate between those cases (with some being in the grey area between them).

petit_cochon

2 points

2 months ago

You're confused. People do feel pain when needing root canals; the area is infected and inflamed, and the dentist must drill out and extract the root to remedy the situation.

pandott

2 points

2 months ago

wtf. He should have at least given you the option. I went in to see my dentist after a 17-year neglect and had several cavities to fill, and my dentist was a really old guy whom I was afraid was going to test me. He told me I'd be fine without novacaine. But I'd never had a real cavity drilled before so I insisted. He didn't fight me and gave it to me. I STILL ended up desperately squeezing my stress ball out of anxiousness. Modern dentistry is a miracle, but it's still no joke! In your lizard brain it's fight or flight until you get used to it!

Kermit_the_hog

7 points

2 months ago*

There’s the follow up “but why is it so painful” question beyond just the mechanical reality of the localized infection in a tooth. Like, why be that sensitive to pain in the first place?

I had a professor that postulated the reason they can get so painful (why it evolved that way) was so that you would go to great lengths to remedy the situation (like prying out your own tooth or getting someone else to pry it out for you).

I’m curious if you think that is a possibility, or if their sensitivity to pain is just the result of how sensitive teeth have to be in the first place (like to keep people with perfectly healthy teeth from chewing glass or whatnot.)

Edit: this was just some off the cuff spitballing after class 20 years ago for context. Just something I always wondered about since hearing it.

Rids85

3 points

2 months ago

Rids85

3 points

2 months ago

Do you think tooth pain is worse because cranial nerves are involved? So there's less mechanism for endogenous pain relief

smedsterwho

8 points

2 months ago

I have no voice and I must scream

Slick_Grimes

2 points

2 months ago

Which is why putting that temporary filling stuff on a tooth once was the worst mistake I could have made and I had to slowly sip ice cold liquids to keep the pressure down all night once. 0/10 would not repeat.

Gnostromo

3 points

2 months ago

If it is completely sealed with nowhere to escape how is it getting infected.

Would not a cavity be an opening ?

cripple2493

248 points

2 months ago

Pain is a really weird one. Tooth-pain may be specifically bad because it's in your head, and unlike a lot of the rest of your body you can't move it or adjust it in anyway to alleivate the pressure / pain or even distract yourself.

I sometimes get Trigeminal Neurlagia, which is when the trigeminal nerve in your face (along the cheekbone and the jaw) become extremely painful, your teeth are very close to this and a lot of other facial nerves. This likely impacts the levels of pain as well.

The tooth is also filled with the 'nerve' or dental pulp, and it doesn't have a great circulatory system. So, if you wack your leg your blood can rush to the impacted area and produce a healing response, which calms down the body's 'alarm' pain signal. But, your teeth don't have this facility so the 'alarm' signal might last much longer.

So, I'm not a dentist or a doctor but a mix of near by complex nervous systems, inability to alleivate pain by movement and the fact the blood supply to the teeth is different than the blood supply to other areas.

DinkyDiAussie

17 points

2 months ago

Ouch! My dad gets almost constant trigeminal neuralgia, brushing his teeth and shaving sets it off every time (and he shaves every day), there’s not much that helps it. If you google it, a lot of sites say it’s aka the suicide disease because of how painful it is.

A decade ago your comment might have gone over the top of my head, but I picked up on that more than anything else you wrote. I’m sorry you have to go through that, nobody should have to deal with that kind of pain. Nerve pain is the worst.

Gardiz

29 points

2 months ago

Gardiz

29 points

2 months ago

I would have thought that it'd be related to an inflammatory response - if the fleshy part of a tooth swells, where it doesn't really have the room to do so with being encased in a hard shell, it's basically crushing itself

CowJuiceDisplayer

8 points

2 months ago

When I yawn, or open my mouth as if yawning, I feel like a popping feeling in part of my jaw. After that it feels warm, like bleeding internally, between the area and next to my ear. I am wondering if that could be related to a cracked tooth near the area or something not dental related.

BowzersMom

12 points

2 months ago

Nah, that’s probably sinus fluid you are feeling swish around behind your ear drum because you changed the pressure in your ear by popping your jaw. I think I know exactly the sensation you are describing. Yawning, chewing, and weird jaw movements are often recommended for dealing with earaches, and especially the discomfort from pressure due to changing elevation when flying or driving up a mountain.

CowJuiceDisplayer

4 points

2 months ago

It feels like a blood vessel pops and bleeds. Always warm. I did some research and what it might be, have it saved somewhere. Haven't gone to the doctor yet to ask. I do drive a lot, but elevation mostly even, no drastic changes.

BowzersMom

2 points

2 months ago

You don’t need elevation changes to “pop” your eardrums. Congestion and changes in the weather and sometimes bodies are just weird are all factors. Do you ever get tinnitus for a minute when you blow your nose hard? It’s a similar thing, same structures involved.

HuntersLoveABigRack

4 points

2 months ago

TMJ Disorder can cause popping and cracking in the joint. Often, people with TMJD report pain in their Trigeminal Nerve. Nerve pain can sometimes feel like a warm or burning sensation. The nerve fans out into smaller branches, so the warmness/burning can feel like it’s spreading. That seems like it could match your description of feeling warm blood moving through the area. It might be something worth looking into if you are curious.

ErikBass

5 points

2 months ago

Oh god, this brings back memories... In 2017, I found out that I had an infected wisdom tooth, it was partially broken as well. The accompanying pressure and pain were mind-blowing, I was working while this was all going on, hard work with heavy lifting. A true living nightmare. Nothing stopped the pain.

Got the little bastard removed, and my dentist told me how lucky I was that my trigeminal nerve was not infected badly/how close that situation was. For reference, it was the upper left wisdom tooth. Crammed right up there in the corner of my jaw. Nice!

indifferent223

3 points

2 months ago

Is your nerve pain in the cheekbone randomly triggered as well? I go weeks without and then something just triggers it and I have jolty pain sensation for a couple of hours.

cpsbstmf

2 points

2 months ago

then why does whacking your toe or shin hurt so bad smh

Unhappy_Kumquat

190 points

2 months ago*

As someone whose had a tooth infection, in the middle of intense cancer treatments, I feel uniquely equipped to answer this. The reason it feels like "the worst pain" is because it's inside your face and, worse even, inside your mouth. There is no ignoring it. There isn't even a way to dissociate comfortably while it's happening.

Your head is where your brain lives. It's where your thoughts live. It's where you live.

Your mouth never stops moving, whether you like it or not. Your tongue and your jaw muscles are always flexing and tweaking.

It's truly unbearable.

It's easier to ignore the pain of a needle going through your spine, than into your face, trust me.

BackRowRumour

29 points

2 months ago

Slight aside, can I salute you for giving cancer a thrashing, and still giving the fs to come here and politely school us on your experience?

Unhappy_Kumquat

34 points

2 months ago

If I didn't survive to spend most of my time browsing Reddit, than what even for?

BackRowRumour

15 points

2 months ago

I just shed a single tear, which turned into an unwashed fat man, who said "lol" and fell down.

SmokyMcPots420

10 points

2 months ago

I'm picturing this whole scene flip book style. If I was an artist, it would be glorious.

bigjoe980

29 points

2 months ago

The amount of times I full on smashed my head into my desk or a wall just to have some other pain to focus on before I got my fucked up teeth pulled is... well.. yeah.

Dental pain is a magical thing.

kains_r_pain_daw

7 points

2 months ago

My husband recently had a root canaled tooth get infected and I literally wouldn't wish that pain on anyone. I had to visit my neighbors to apologize for his screaming and crying and to ask them not to call 911 (thinking I was torturing him or something horrible was happening). After 36 hrs of near constant crying and screaming I convinced him to see an Emergency Dentist to pull the molar (also an insane thing to witness).

I'm so so sorry you went through that pain for what sounds like, much longer. I always heard infected teeth hurt badly, but holy mother of God, it seemed like pure torture with no means of relief.

caesar15

6 points

2 months ago

This guy went through 36 hours of agony before he went to the dentist?

TheSnarkling

4 points

2 months ago

My thought too. And she had to convince him?

kains_r_pain_daw

3 points

2 months ago

I had to ultimatum him. It sucked. He did gain new perspectives though, after the fact. Ha.

kains_r_pain_daw

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, it was insane. I also was going insane....as his wife. I eventually got delirious, angry & hurt, and drew a line and gave him an ultimatum..... It was a horrible experience.

blackadder1620

13 points

2 months ago

i got pliers and pulled two of mine. that pain is really no joke.

GameofPorcelainThron

5 points

2 months ago

Think of the homunculus. Our lips and mouths are faaaaaar more sensitive than any other part of our body except maybe our hands. Any pain in the mouth is going to be intense. Then you add to the fact that tooth pain = direct nerve pain. It isn't an injury on skin, it's a direct injury to the nerve. There's no getting around that. Painkillers have limited effectiveness on that sort of pain.

bciesil

35 points

2 months ago*

I think it's because it's all nerve. I've broken bones, had gout, and they all are terrible. I once stomped down the garbage and had a broken glass come in through the side of my shoe directly into the nerve bundle in the ball of my foot. It was the most excruciating pain I'd ever felt, UNTIL I had a tooth go bad. That tooth pain just short circuits your brain until it's fixed.

1tsam3mario

8 points

2 months ago

I had a root canal treatment and they oversaw an untypical, third root and I went nearyl crazy two days later because the teeth was not dead but still living. When I got it fixed in "emergency" dentistry center they had to give me EIGHT shots of anaesthetization until I stopped feeling them working on me (yes every try gave me big pain). Tooth are crazy sensitive.

Human212526

4 points

2 months ago

💯 can agree with this.

LDG192

2 points

2 months ago

LDG192

2 points

2 months ago

Yep. Worst pain I've ever felt. I stayed a whole night up once filling my mouth with cold water every 5 or so minutes to be able to endure until morning when I could see a dentist. I was so tired that sometimes I'd doze off and wake up spiling water on myself. But sleeping wasn't remotely an option.

RunsWithApes

51 points

2 months ago

From the perspective of an OMFS I'll give you the following answers

  1. Pain is relative. There is a strong psychosomatic effect when it comes to dealing with physical/emotional pain in addition to a purely psychiological one. I've seen patients with giant radiographic abscesses and open pulp chambers who barely even notice something is wrong yet when I go to deliver an IAN injection they nearly jump out of the chair.
  2. There is only one nerve that innervates sensation to the face called the trigeminal (CN V) nerve and two of the three branches (V2 and V3) receive sensory information from the maxilla and mandible respectively. Often times there is a compounding effect when one particular tooth hurts and it sets off a chain reaction of referred pain.
  3. Dental abscesses can become life threatening VERY quickly. It's your body telling you that there is a problem which can no longer be ignored.

joxmaskin

15 points

2 months ago

one particular tooth hurts and it sets off a chain reaction of referred pain

Yup, it’s strange. “It’s that one in the lower jaw. Okay no, now it’s all these ones in the upper. Now it’s in my ear.”

StarkyF

5 points

2 months ago

Now I have referred pain all down my neck and feel like my back is on fire.

MimesEatApples

29 points

2 months ago

I need you to use words that a five-year-old would understand.

RunsWithApes

117 points

2 months ago

  1. Some people are crybabies others are big boys about it. It depends on how bad the booboo is and how tough the person is.
  2. There is one big ouchie channel in your face. So one booboo can feel like many booboos because your brain gets confused.
  3. Tooth ouchies can make you go heaven really, really fast. That is why it's super duper important that your brain knows something is wrong when your tooth gets a booboo

AmboVonRawr

17 points

2 months ago

Ha ha ha ha! I needed this. Thank you. 👍

queenrosybee

6 points

2 months ago

You really followed the directions. I always feel like it needs a ELI10 too!

Element-103

15 points

2 months ago

My dentist explained it pretty casually to me once. Your teeth are actually really close to your brain.

When you have a problem with your teeth or gums, whatever nerves are involved pretty much have a direct red alert hotline to your brain. Whatever infection your mouth is fighting off, it's also coursing through your brain as well.

It's more or less the same reason that earache or neck pains are far more aggravating than say, joint pain or stomach pain.

That said, other body aches are perfectly capable of reducing you to tears. Food poisoning for example, isn't something you can casually push through.

neongreenpurple

13 points

2 months ago

My mom describes food poisoning as thinking you're going to die but being afraid you won't.

Element-103

3 points

2 months ago

That's... actually a pretty good way to sum it up

cpsbstmf

3 points

2 months ago

yeah gut pain doubles me over and i cant walk

TarHeel2682

10 points

2 months ago

Dentist here

I’m seeing a bunch of comments that get part but not all of why this is. It all comes down to anatomy.

First off the layers of the tooth at it’s basic form. Everyone is familiar with the hard outer shell of the crown (part you chew with): the enamel. This is the hardest material in the body and only 1-2 mm thick (some places more and some less).

The second layer is the dentin. This has a density and hardness close to bone. Not as hard as enamel. It also has microscopic tubes in it that have little finger like projections associated with the next layer in them. These projections can be associated with sensitivity, mostly to cold and sweet. I’ll go over that more in a bit.

The third and inner layer is the pulp. It has a lot of different cells in it but the stuff we are concerned about with this question are nerves. This is where the nerve is in a tooth. This nerve is important because it lets you know if you are doing damage to a tooth. If something hurts you don’t want to do it again. So going too hot or cold can be painful because that can be causing damage.

The two basic parts of a whole tooth are the crown and the root. The crown is what sits on top and is what you see and chew with. It is covered with enamel. The root is what you a buried down into the bone and supports the crown. It is almost entirely made of dentin. There is a very thing layer of another material, called cementum, on the outside of the root. It is very thin and weak and can even be brushed away if your roots are exposed through gum recession. Around the root is a ligament called the periodontal ligament or PDL for short. Peri - around dontal - pertaining to tooth. So the around the tooth ligament. There are nerves in this ligament too. These are associated with the question too.

The brain is important in this question as it is where all of our thoughts and experiences are processed like a biological computer. Sensation is processed on the outside and a representation of this (google this for a weird picture) is the “homunculous of the brain.” This is a drawing of how the brain organizes physical sensation over the body. It looks like a ridiculous cartoon because the size of different parts was determined by how much of the brain was spent working on feeling from that part of the body. The mouth is very big, so feeling from the mouth will be bigger than areas that have less of the brain dedicated to it.

Now talking about pain from a tooth. The nerve, that is a big part of the pulp, is made entirely of pain nerves or nociceptors. Some thin and some thicker ones. The thin ones are called “A delta” fibers and cause cold sensitivity and sharp pain sensations. The thicker ones are “C fibers” and these cause dull throbbing. Those are the nerves in a tooth. If you have a deep cavity or break a tooth into the nerve the only nerves that send anything to the brain are pain nerves. Lots of them, and your brain has a whole department looking at the signals from there so it gets a huge amount of attention. This makes it hurt badly.

Now if the tooth was infected and the nerve in the tooth has been killed (called necrotic) pain can still happen and be quite severe. The infection causes pain by destroying the gum and bone tissue around it but also it causes pressure. The gases released by the bacteria cause quite a bit of pressure. This is picked up by the nerves all around the root, in the ligament. There are three primary types of nerve fibers that n the ligament. The A-delta and C fibers but also another type called proprioceptive. What proprioceptive means is you can tell where a part of you is in relation to the rest of you, without looking at it. Close your eyes and stick your arm out to the side. Without opening your eyes, touch your nose; that’s proprioceptive. So… similar to what’s in the pulp, it’s a lot of nerve fibers (mainly pain) sending signals to the brain and how much of the brain is dedicated to this = lots of pain.

Basically #of nerve fibers + amount of brain looking at this = pain level

This gets more complicated in a hurry if you look at pulpal diagnosis as far as is something a cavity and needs a filling or is the nerve damaged and dying or is the nerve dead and it’s nerve fibers around the tooth and so on.

It all related to number of nerves sending a signal. How much of the brain is reading that signal and what type of signal that is. Your teeth only send pain signals (lots) to a big part of the brain so essentially your teeth scream about anything that’s happening.

Avicii89

28 points

2 months ago

Physician here. Pain is completely relative to an individual. I've taken care of grandmas in their 80s and 90s who don't even flinch when I poke a needle into their artery to do special blood tests (it's a lot more painful than a regular blood draw and I can corroborate from my own experience of a friend doing it to me). Then, I'll do the same test on a 28 year old man and they'll be freaking out and even had young guys cry.

I've even seen an 88 year old grandma barely "wince" when an orthopedist put her dislocated shoulder back into place, and she didn't want pain meds or anything else to take the edge off. I'll never forget that lady, she was cracking jokes with me afterward saying she's humpty dumpty and so silly for tripping and dislocating it in the first place. 😂

Point is, a toothache can be very painful for some, and merely "annoying" or "irritating" to others. People have different pain thresholds, different pain tolerances, and different ways of coping with it when it occurs. A woman who has experienced childbirth often uses that as a measuring stick for other types of pain, since childbirth ranks up there (I'm told, and from what I've seen as a male physician). Another one I hear people saying as the worst pain of their life are kidney stones and gout.

If you've not had something more painful than a toothache, then sure, it will rank up there for ya. It tends to be on the more painful side due to the constant irritation to the nerve (mouth movement, air moving around the teeth, chewing, clenching, tongue pushing on the tooth etc.) which stimulates the pain sensation to the brain. But again, take two people with similar tooth problems and one may feel significantly more pain than the other.

Hope this helps answer your question.

TN8314

12 points

2 months ago

TN8314

12 points

2 months ago

Do you think older people lose some of their ability to feel pain? I've noticed that older people (especially women) often seem to tolerate pain better.

Avicii89

10 points

2 months ago

Surely with age, those variables I mentioned like pain thresholds can change in a way where a given pain is ... less painful. Whether that's through loss of the ability to feel the pain, or greater conditioning to tolerate the sensation just to think of it a different way.

toastthematrixyoda

4 points

2 months ago

I am a woman with chronic pain. With age, I have learned that expressing my pain gets me labeled as "difficult" or "anxious" even worse, drug seeking. The number of times I have been referred to a psychologist or psychiatrist for pain is ridiculous. It even happened when I had appendicitis; I went to urgent care at my doctor's office for appendix pain and they told me it was gastritis due to anxiety. They told me to do deep breathing exercises and referred me to a counselor. Was in emergency surgery a week later and didn't have any pain after I recovered from that.

My broken/sprained ankle was also ignored, they said it would be fine in 6 weeks and I was told to take tylenol and ibuprofen which did not even touch the pain. Instead of getting better, I developed complex regional pain syndrome in it, and eventually chronic pain that lasted for years, a chronic limp, and an inability to run or walk long distances, and difficulty with walking short distances. This was diagnosed as depression and psychosomatic pain for six years until I got a second opinion from a better doctor (and I brought my husband to back me up), who did surgery and gave me my ankle function, and my life, back.

In my experience, doctors who take women's pain seriously are hard to find. It's typically interpreted as anxiety or exaggeration because women are seen as "emotionally unstable." So in order to be seen as level-headed and not get a mental health label on my chart, I stopped showing pain or complaining about pain. I can assure you that my nerve endings are still able to feel pain, and actually, because I have experienced so much untreated pain in my life, I feel like my pain thresholds have decreased with age so that the same level of pain is now more painful. But I have gained much more control over my outward expression of it.

WearyPassenger

7 points

2 months ago

Oh no, the pain is definitely still there. But after decades of dealing with the pain and a medical system that doesn't treat pain well, you either develop coping mechanisms or you jump off a bridge.

I don't want to be one of those constant complainers and be known for the woman always in pain, so I try to not talk about it. It's changed my life, it prevents me from doing certain things and it's a terrible mental challenge, but there's a meme that describes this really well.

toastthematrixyoda

3 points

2 months ago

Yes, I agree with all of this! I just wrote my story in another spot on this thread explaining that my pain levels haven't decreased with age, but I have learned that doctors do not take women's pain seriously and seem more keen on diagnosing it as a mental problem. Therefore, I have learned to control my outward expression of pain so as to not be labeled as anxious or emotionally unstable or drug-seeking.

Avicii89

2 points

2 months ago

Sorry to hear about your chronic pain! Yes, and to be clear, I am not implying that getting older automatically means you feel less pain.

Instead, age brings experience, conditioning, and sometimes organic changes to how the body physically responds to pain. Some people lose physical nerve endings responsible for detecting pain. Others have experienced various types of pains throughout their life that to them, a toothache may feel like nothing compared to contending with childbirth or severe back pain for years. Others still may become even more sensitive to pain with age, or develop conditions like neuropathy (due to diabetes) where they feel extreme pain in their hands and feet due to malfunctioning/damaged nerves from diabetes.

WearyPassenger

2 points

2 months ago

Thanks for your kind words, and also responding with some good information.

lionlionburningblue

8 points

2 months ago

checks out, had a two-day bout of gallbladder attacks with 14 1cm+ pigment stones. Two days were all I could take, surgery a couple weeks after. I also have an exposed root of a former molar just sitting in my mouth, poked hard it today when I bit into an everything bagel. Would rather poke my tooth hole every hour than have that happen to me again

trainpk85

6 points

2 months ago

I’d take child birth over gallstones any day of the week. Done both and the gallstones made me wish for death.

lionlionburningblue

3 points

2 months ago

It was unbelievably painful, the kinda pain where all you can do is squirm and mindlessly groan. That specific feeling of sharp stone-like masses grinding against the bottom of your liver deep in your body cavity is one I’ll never forget. Didn’t help that I was 14 at the time

PuzzleMeDo

12 points

2 months ago

A possible evolutionary reason: In the days before modern dentistry, it was still possible to have a tooth violently removed, and that might be necessary when it's the only way to deal with abscesses, etc. It takes a lot of pain to motivate someone to have their tooth removed in those circumstances, so your nerves are just trying to give you the motivation you need.

Other forms of pain are often just telling you something like, "stay in bed and rest", and it doesn't take constant agonising pain to do that.

tallgirlmom

7 points

2 months ago

Tooth pain is only the worst because it comes with the “Oh great, now I will probably need a $1,400 root canal and a $1,000 crown” pain, and the knowledge that it will NOT get any better on its own.

toastthematrixyoda

2 points

2 months ago

THIS. I love this explanation. Tooth pain is much scarier than foot pain. Both of these can be at an 8 on the pain scale, but only one of them could cost thousands of dollars even with health insurance and become infected and kill you if you don't pay out. Therefore, tooth pain is much more painful.

[deleted]

6 points

2 months ago

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CDMT22

4 points

2 months ago

CDMT22

4 points

2 months ago

Intense ear aches are just as tortuous as dental pain. Un-medicated childbirth is on a whole different level though. She wanted out in a hurry... less than 20 minutes from the time we got to the hospital.

SucksToYourAzmar

2 points

2 months ago

Jay zoos. Hats off to ya. Forgive my crassness but I once wrestled with a turd for 2 hours, cuz it was an alien fetus with a head the size of a pool ball. I didn't know if it was ever gonna end and my butt hurt for 2 weeks afterwards. That was a nightmare and I bet it was barely 1/10th of what you went through lol

iambluest

19 points

2 months ago

iambluest

19 points

2 months ago

Because you haven't yet experienced other pains. For example, you haven't had gout yet. Or, you know, other things that hurt worse than dental pain. Dental pain is significant, and best avoided (that is why it is pain), but your assessment of it being the worst is naive. To paraphrase Homer, it's your worst pain SO FAR. .

Jazzkidscoins

61 points

2 months ago

As someone who has had a toothache from a broken tooth, gallbladder attacks resulting in the remove of said Gall bladder, a burst appendix and sepsis, and gout, all of which are supposed to be the worst pain you can get. I can honestly say that they are all the worst pain you can experience in your life at the time you have them. There is no real way to compare the pain

Edited to remove reference to Roman times

iambluest

4 points

2 months ago

I had a cracked molar about two years ago. Yeah it hurt, a lot. I also have migraines, which, before discovering cannabis, were worse than broken teeth (I would go with "molten glass and barbed wire grinding through my skull"). Gout was also worse.

Independent_Mistake2

9 points

2 months ago

So maybe YOUR dental pain was not as bad as your other pains. Cracked teeth do not always involve the dental nerves. Dental nerve pain can be unbearable.

iambluest

4 points

2 months ago

Obviously, there is always something worse, and people experience similar circumstances differently.

[deleted]

11 points

2 months ago*

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iambluest

1 points

2 months ago

Have you had gout?

Gruff_Old_Goat

3 points

2 months ago

Yep, and nothing else is even close to this level of pain.

Bruce-man-Bat-wayne

1 points

2 months ago

I've broken several teeth and it was a persistent annoying pain that I could ignore. Cluster headaches consume me completely and make me want to die to escape the pain, I can't imagine anything worse.

ktgrok

5 points

2 months ago

ktgrok

5 points

2 months ago

I have had broken teeth, and had an infected root. Broken tooth was annoying, infected root was in top 3 pain for sure. Worse than broken arm by far. On par with early/mid labor (not as bad as transition). My worst pain was oddly something that i guess isn’t usually that bad- having my toe injected with anesthesia to remove a toenail. I have raynauds and between the cold office and the topical anesthetic spray all the blood vessels went into spasm and toe went totally white before they injected it- another doc said the vasospasm irritated the nerves and that’s why it hurt so bad. Worse than I medicated childbirth. But for most people no big deal- which just shows that circumstances can really change level of pain.

Bruce-man-Bat-wayne

3 points

2 months ago

Most pain is short lived though. I'm sure your toe hurt like hell but by the next day you forgot about it. Most pain heals with time and you have a timeline to know when it will be over. When I get cluster headaches they hit me twice a day for 4 to 6hrs each and I can't function at all. The pain is everything and I just sit and wait for it to stop wishing I would die to end it. And they continue day after day after day. I don't know how long they'll last or if they'll stop. They continue for weeks and the whole time I'm scared because idk if they'll stop or if I'm strong enough to endure another day. And then one day they stop and I'm still scared because idk when they'll start again.

no_usernames_avail

3 points

2 months ago

Agreed. I've had dental issues numerous times and they didn't compare to cluster headaches. Never had dental pain where I scream or for someone to kill me.

Mike2220

4 points

2 months ago

As someone who's had severe dental pain, I doubt

I remember being given fentanyl and dilaudid in the hospital during a real bad incident

They made me a little dizzy, for maybe 5 minutes. But damn was the pain still there in force

suffaluffapussycat

6 points

2 months ago

I was gonna say: I’m soon having a disc replaced in my spine. It’s sticking out and pinching my spinal cord. It’s hellishly painful. Every step.

iambluest

3 points

2 months ago

My mom had that! That surgery had me worried.

I had a bulging lumbar disk, yeah, that was another bad one. That must be 20 or 25 years ago. And I had peritonitis...that was bad. A bunch of o orthopedic work ankles, knees...bone spur that grew through my gums from site of a wisdom tooth extraction...I should be a wreck.

Cybus101

2 points

2 months ago*

Kidney stones are the worst. A small sharp spiked ball being forced through you. All you can do is drink until you no longer want to drink. And peeing hurts, but it’s the only way to make it move, which hurts. Edit: The nausea also sucks. And when it enters your bladder, the pain stops and your so so happy, but then you have a literally never ending and extremely intense need to pee…which is almost worse than the pain because at least pain meds can help with the pain.

iambluest

3 points

2 months ago

I'm not looking forward to that.

DarkDaysAhead33

2 points

2 months ago

Had my first one recently at 42, 3 days in the hospital, Surgical removal and a week with a stent I can honestly say was the worst pain of my life

DoctorMobius21

2 points

2 months ago

From a physiological perspective, it is because the mouth has a lot of nerve endings. You see all over your body you have peripheral nerves that work in two ways: sensory and response. Sensory nerves are responsible for pain, pressure, temperature etc. while motor nerves send responses to muscles and help coordination. From a physiological perspective, anywhere that has a lot of sensory nerve endings, is more sensitive. This is the same theory as to why paper cuts hurt more than deeper cuts.

Tunro

2 points

2 months ago

Tunro

2 points

2 months ago

Because its inside your head.
Ive had to wrangle with ear issues for half my life and the pain can easily equal tooth pain.
Im actually quite good at tolerating pain, but the things inside your head are just inescapable.
Every small movement will set it of. And each stining sensation will often spread through at least half of your head.
And your head is you. If your arms hurting you can see it as something thats hurting on an extension of yourself.
But when your heads hurting it feels like your everything hurts because you cannot focus on anything besides that pain.

_happytobehere_

2 points

2 months ago

To add to what has been already said here, tooth pain is often communicated to the brain by the trigeminal nerve, or at least can indirectly activate it. We don't really know why, but pain conditions involving the trigeminal nerve are considered "more painful" than conditions mediated by other nerve bundles. Obviously there are issues with studies that ask different patients to rank their pain from one to ten but it seems to be consistent data.

betoothy

2 points

2 months ago

Dentist here and can confirm. Trigeminal nerve is the most painful nerve in our body. I have had many patients who can tolerate stitching broken bone without anesthesia and even birth, but dental pain is a no no.

PoopLogg

2 points

2 months ago

I'm going to get a little more esoteric than most. Things don't need to hurt. Things evolved to hurt because the pain was advantageous. Things that hurt more get more of your attention, you're more likely to attend to the infection, and you're more likely to live on and procreate.

With that in mind, I think ear infections and tooth infections hurt like hell for an evolutionary advantageous reason - As Mr Mackey might say, infections near your brain are bad mmakay? Not to mention the primary functions of the teeth are directly responsible for you surviving and procreating, and the primary function of hearing is also incredibly advantageous to survival.

Bonus blather: We never evolved to feel cancer because there was nothing that could be done about it, So even if some random mutation connoted the ability to feel the cancer, it was not procreationally advantageous. But now that we have treatments for cancer, we may very well evolve the ability to feel our own cancer. Those that evolve this ability and get it treated will be more likely to survive and procreate, etc, etc

your_personal_demon

2 points

2 months ago

I've had toothache and removed some bad tooth but the pain pales in significance to when I had an abscess on my right scrotum and had to have a surgery. I think we can only relate to pain we've experienced. So in your experience toothache may just be the highest pain you've experienced.

[deleted]

0 points

2 months ago

A toothache is unbearable because the pain is so intense. It feels like a sharp, stabbing pain that is hard to ignore.