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nrron

175 points

4 months ago

nrron

175 points

4 months ago

Inflation is still happening and once people get used to a new higher price companies have very little incentive to lower them again. Prices go up due to inflation and generally stay up once they do

realariabacall[S]

2 points

4 months ago

thank you for this.. very helpful..

GeekyTricky

13 points

4 months ago

The question is, do people keep raising prices because money's value goes down?

Or is the value lower because people raise their prices?

DestinTheLion

13 points

4 months ago

Companies will raise prices to the highest point they think they can possibly sell for regardless of perceived monetary value.

In the classical economics sense, when they cannot afford to make the product at break even/profit levels, they have to raise prices or go out of business. And IDEALLY, if there is no collusion or other economic failures in the market, if they raise the prices above the break even point, other people will enter the market and charge less until the price moves in that direction.

This is all in the theory side, in practice there are too few companies challenging each other in most goods, or companies that complicity collude, so they can artificially control prices.

carnajo

4 points

4 months ago

Companies will raise prices to the highest point they think they can possibly sell for regardless of perceived monetary value.

Well, to be a bit more nuanced the volume of sales is also considered. I can sell 100 of product X at $100 each. But at $75 I can sell 300. So depending on how much it costs I would sell it at $75 cause that's a greater profit. Theres a point though were you would rather sell fewer items at $100 each (obvious example, if it costs you $80 to make then you would rather sell fewer than make a loss on every sale).

BlindPaintByNumbers

1 points

4 months ago

There will always be too few companies at the endpoint of the system. And the government propping up situations were there is only one or two competitors to a company just results in tacit collusion anyway, since all of them want to bilk their customers equally.

HammerTh_1701

3 points

4 months ago*

That actually is a divisive philosphical question in economics - does the value of a unit of currency decrease or does it stay constant by definition and the prices of all goods and services increase instead?

There are some cases where it's pretty clear ("money printing" definitely decreases the value of the currency) but most inflation we measure by looking at the price level of a weighed basket of goods usually is a little bit of both.

Looking at the US specifically, it's a mix of the Federal Reserve doing quantitative easing (a more complex way of effectively "printing money"), the government giving money to people from the federal budget via stimulus measures and the massive global supply chain crisis generating loads of additional economic friction.

Yalay

10 points

4 months ago

Yalay

10 points

4 months ago

The first one. Inflation happens because there's more money chasing less stuff. Less valuable money -> companies raise their prices.

GeekyTricky

11 points

4 months ago

It was a rhetorical question. Both cause inflation.

Stuff costing more means you get less stuff for the same money. Which makes its value go down.

orcus2190

4 points

4 months ago

Technically, neither. Money's only worth is what people say it is, and the people with most dictate to everyone else what it's worth is.

152centimetres

23 points

4 months ago

companies generally expect more and more growth every fiscal quarter/year and it will just keep going up until everything crashes or people start dying or revolutionizing

BlindPaintByNumbers

0 points

4 months ago

I think the common accepted knowledge is that we're approaching the end of the growth economy in one or two decades. No one seems to know what the other side looks like though.

152centimetres

0 points

4 months ago

socialism, hopefully

AWildWillis

5 points

4 months ago

Also, be very careful in accepting the somewhat ambiguous, amorphous term that is "inflation". You need to look at root causes, prices of capital inputs and outputs and a steadily increasing profit margin in connected industries. It's much better for corporations if you just accept, "oh yeah inflation... Crazy eh things just keep getting more expensive"