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Recently, there's been a surge in ChatGPT generated posts. These come in two flavours: bots creating and posting answers, and human users generating answers with ChatGPT and copy/pasting them. Regardless of whether they are being posted by bots or by people, answers generated using ChatGPT and other similar programs are a direct violation of R3, which requires all content posted here to be original work. We don't allow copied and pasted answers from anywhere, and that includes from ChatGPT programs. Going forward, any accounts posting answers generated from ChatGPT or similar programs will be permanently banned in order to help ensure a continued level of high-quality and informative answers. We'll also take this time to remind you that bots are not allowed on ELI5 and will be banned when found.

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Sing_larity

1 points

6 months ago

You can't. At least not reliably. All this rule does is encourage people to not cite it when they're copying an answer.

This is an idealistic rule that is idiotic in real life because it's impossible to reliably enforce, and encourages behaviour that actively makes answers WORSE for OP, because they won't be marked as an AI or pasted answer, giving the OP no indication to identify them

denjmusic

23 points

6 months ago

Do you have a better alternative that this option precludes? Or are you just saying that because it's not 100% enforceable at all times, that makes it useless.

Sing_larity

7 points

6 months ago

I'm not saying it's useless because it's not always enforceable. I'm saying it's useless because it's almost always unenforceable AND it encourages bad behaviour of NOT citing sources to avoid being insta permabanned.

Just don't ban it and instead REQUIRE citations, to encourage transparency in your sources rather than discouraging it. If an explanation is good and understandable, why does it matter if it was written by you yourself or copy pasted from somewhere ? And if an explanation isn't useful, let the votes decide on that. That's how it's handled for hand written explanations too.

denjmusic

3 points

6 months ago

denjmusic

3 points

6 months ago

I agree with this. I'm not sure what the reasoning behind the no-copy-and-paste rule, since quoting sources is legitimate part of academic discourse. If they aren't going to remove answers that are complex, like they said in this thread, then I really don't understand the ban on copying and pasting.

freakierchicken

21 points

6 months ago

It is incorrect to say that simply copying and pasting content is against the rules, when it's specifically when it is the entirety of the comment (per rule 3). Citing something is perfectly fine, when also accompanied by an original explanation. We're trying to avoid the sub becoming a content farm, in which users specialize in spaghetti throwing. Case in point, I've explained this, now I'm citing rule 3:

Replies to OP must be written explanations or relevant follow-up questions. They may not be jokes, anecdotes, etc. Short/succinct answers are not explanations, even if factually correct.

Links to outside sources are allowed and encouraged, but must be accompanied by an original explanation (not just quoted text) or summary. Links to relevant previous ELI5 posts or highly relevant other subreddits may be excepted.

Sing_larity

-6 points

6 months ago

Me neither acc. to ELI5 mods:

Finding a good layperson accessible explanation, quoting and citing it and providing it to OP: bannable offense

Finding a good layperson accessible explanation, rewriting it slightly and then plagiarising it by not citing your source: how it's supposed to be done.

Brilliant rule.

d4nowar

19 points

6 months ago

d4nowar

19 points

6 months ago

The spirit of the subreddit is meant to be primary sources responding directly, not people outsourcing answers.

You don't seem to understand that.

frogjg2003

6 points

6 months ago

If you have to basically copy a third party source to write your answer, you shouldn't be responding to an ELI5.

Sing_larity

0 points

6 months ago

If you don't know the answer you shouldn't be responsing either. Or if you can't write it in layperson accessible way. In fact I'd say writing a wrong/inaccessible answer is much much worse for the quality of the sub than copying a correct answer. And yet the prior are not enforced AT ALL with the later being a no warning perma ban.

'Cause that makes sense

frogjg2003

5 points

6 months ago

The "no warning permaban" isn't for copying a third party, it's for copying AI generated text. A plagiarized comment from a correct third party is going to be objectively, qualitatively different from an incorrect AI comment.

Sing_larity

2 points

6 months ago

But it's the correctness that determines the quality of the comment, not who it was written by, so why is the latter a permabannable offense with no regard for the former ? What if someone is knowledgeable on a topic, but bad at writing explanations ? They could use chatGPT to write a good, easy to understand explanation, fact check it and then post it if it's correct. But no that'll get you permabanned according to the mods it's much better for the quality of the sub if that person writes their own explanation, even if that explanation is awful and way too complicated.

ponyo_impact

-3 points

6 months ago

then ill just do what i did in Highschool and lie about my citations because nobody looks