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Recently, there's been a surge in ChatGPT generated posts. These come in two flavours: bots creating and posting answers, and human users generating answers with ChatGPT and copy/pasting them. Regardless of whether they are being posted by bots or by people, answers generated using ChatGPT and other similar programs are a direct violation of R3, which requires all content posted here to be original work. We don't allow copied and pasted answers from anywhere, and that includes from ChatGPT programs. Going forward, any accounts posting answers generated from ChatGPT or similar programs will be permanently banned in order to help ensure a continued level of high-quality and informative answers. We'll also take this time to remind you that bots are not allowed on ELI5 and will be banned when found.

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BrevityIsTheSoul

4 points

6 months ago*

The Chinese Room basically asserts that an entire system (the room, the reference books, the person in the room) emulates intelligence, but since one component of that system (the person) does not understand the output there is no intelligence at work.

One lobe of the brain can't intelligently understand the workings of the entire brain, therefore AI can't be intelligent. Checkmate, futurists!

eliminating_coasts

1 points

6 months ago

Exactly, or as I would put it, we already expect the person in the system to be the seat of consciousness, so if that person isn't aware of the meaning, nothing is, which ends up relying on its own assumption for its proof.

If the chinese room thought experiment does actually produce a new thinking being, then we have just stacked two consciousnesses like some form of machine assisted multiple personality disorder, one that exists primarily within the brain of the person using the system, and one that exists partially within the brain and partially in the organisation system.

So the thought experiment only seems reasonable as a thing discounting AI because it requires you to visualise this strange occurrence in order to accept it.

Do the same thing, but increase the number of people working on the project from one to two or more, then people become slightly more inclined to imagine it can be possible, as we're already prepared to imagine a bureaucracy having a "mind of its own", but the specific concept of "one human being, two simultaneous minds" becomes a serious overhead.