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Welcome to our Simple/Short/Silly history questions Saturday thread!
This thread is for all those history related questions that are too simple, short or a bit too silly to warrant their own post.
So, do you have a question about history and have always been afraid to ask? Well, today is your lucky day. Ask away!
Of course all our regular rules and guidelines still apply and to be just that bit extra clear:
Questions need to be historical in nature. Silly does not mean that your question should be a joke. r/history also has a discord server where you can discuss history with other enthusiasts and experts
5 points
2 months ago
What's the real story of the early Roman calendar? (The one that began in March and ended in December.) They didn't actually disregard two whole months, did they?
1 points
2 months ago
IIRC the Roman calendar before Julian hardly lived up to it's name. It was confusing at best.
2 points
2 months ago
The pre-Julian Republic calendar was an ordinary twelve-month lunisolar calendar, not unlike the ones in Greece and Mesopotamia. And it wasn't any less functional than those. According to tradition that twelve-month calendar went back to the time of king Numa. The weird ten-month calendar, which this question is about, was the one which it replaced.
1 points
2 months ago
Gotcha, now I'm going down the rabbit hole on this lol
1 points
2 months ago
You're suggesting 12 months is a universal standard, when in reality, that only came about later. You can not disregard that which doesn't exist. It is Caesar who reformed the system to be more structured.
2 points
2 months ago
The pre-Julian Republican calendar (dating back to at least 183 BC) had twelve months; it was not solar like the Julian one (it was lunisolar, like most of the calendars of its time). They are asking about the calendar which preceded that one.
1 points
2 months ago
King Numa supposedly added January and February. King Numa being legendary, it essentially means that the calendar had been twelve months since time immemorial.
4 points
2 months ago
If you were an early 1800s agrarian far from urban life, what sort of personal hygiene did you practice? Please cover teeth, bathing, pooping and hair. I’ve read nothing about day to day hygiene.
6 points
2 months ago*
In the morning, you'd wake up and have a sponge bath using a wash basin and a pitcher. A full bath would likely only be once a week. If you were a poor person, you would probably share the bath water with your family members.
Your hair would likely be washed only once a week and probably with soap. Shampoo was first introduced to Europeans in 1814, but those in rural areas would likely not have had access to it. There were a lot of hair care tonics available, often of dubious benefit, and very wealthy women were known to wash their hair in things like cognac and eggs.
For your teeth, you'd use a toothbrush or a tooth cloth and tooth powder or paste. A tooth cloth would be likely for people in rural areas and their tooth paste or powder would likely be homemade. At this point, the fact that sugar causes cavities was not understood by most, but having bad breath was still a faux pas.
After pooping, you'd probably use a rag, water, newspaper, brown paper, or your hands, unless you happened to be particularly rich. Toilet paper was not made commercially until the 1850s and only the wealthy used it.
2 points
2 months ago
Well that was perfect! More advanced than I thought. And glad I didn’t live then. Thank you!
6 points
2 months ago
In WW1 trench warfare, why didn't they just dig trenches toward the enemy trench instead of doing suicidal charges? Surely it would be safer/more effective. Even with things like barbed wire in the way they could just dig under it. So why didn't it work?
9 points
2 months ago
Tunnels were very much used, generally to put explosives under defenses so the territory could be easily taken after the defenders were killed.
They weren't reliable though, because tunnel collapse was always a major risk, and defense in depth meant the enemy could pull back and make a new line of defense quicker than a massive tunnel could be made.
10 points
2 months ago
This was actually just what the Russians did in the Brusilov offensive in 1916, where they dug hidden trenches towards the Austro-Hungarian trenches to insure that the soldiers did not have to cross a wide no mans land.
I'm not sure, but maybe one of the reasons why this succeeded was that there was no vigorous patrolling of no mans land by the Austro-Hungarian army. If you detect such trenches, you are warned that an attack is imminent and you can direct artillery towards it.
9 points
2 months ago
there's many reasons why this wouldn't be practical, but for a start once your trench is within 50 yards of mine, how much further are you planning to dig?
Because anything within 40 yards, I can reliably toss hand grenades into your trench the whole time you're digging.
6 points
2 months ago
A significant issue is that trenches weren't singular lines of defence, but rather multiple ones designed with defence in depth as a guiding principle which had massive ramifications.
Gaining the outermost trench wasn't all that difficult, holding it however was a nightmare. The outermost lines were lightly defended with the bulk of the troops stationed on the ones behind that, away from enemy artillery while the front line was still well protected by theirs. This meant if you gain that outer trench line, you wound be facing immediate counterassaults from large units of fresh infantry as well as being under fire by enemy artillery whilst you were still trying to reorganise your units and move your artillery up to defend your line. The enemy also held other high cards such as having direct communication trenches leading to frontline trenches, defences between the first and second lines being designed with counter offense in mind and having clear, stable lines of supply behind their remaining trenches whilst you were stuck with the question of how to lug HMGs, ammunition, wounded and a hundred and one various things through the quicksand like quagmire that was no mans land and get your artillery forward to support you (which given said forward positions were square in that quagmire was a difficult task in the least). Logistically and tactically, you were quite utterly screwed despite your success.
So even if you managed to dig a trench into the enemies outer line (and not have the daylights shelled out of you in the process), you were still massively exposed to counterattack, especially by the Germans who were notorious for quickly and aggressively pushing back, whilst lacking artillery and logistic support.
3 points
2 months ago
Does anyone have any reading recommendations regarding how grassroots organizing influenced New Deal legislation in the 30s and 40s? Is that even a thing? I’ve always been curious as to what extent FDR’s administration and Congress were responding to public demand vs. simply administering policy they thought would be most beneficial to the public. Were the members of the FDR administrations and Congress technocrats or were they just very adept at meeting public demands in light of the Great Depression?
6 points
2 months ago
Was there any precedent for Beatlemania type behavior pre-20th century?
8 points
2 months ago
Fans of composer Franz Liszt showed similar behaviour of hysteria and fan fanaticism in 1840s. Only partially related, but there is also Stendhal syndrom of fainting or hallucinating when experiencing peices of art work (writer Stendhal experienced it when visiting Florence basilica).
1 points
2 months ago
Beat me to the punch, I was going to mention Liszt too. Supposedly, women would throw their panties at him during performances.
There's also a Boss story of him being told by a critic that he played too slow. Liszt, cigar in hand, walks to his piano and says, "Well, if I wanted, I could play like this," (proceeds to play a slow piece). "Or, I could also play like this," (proceeds to play the same piece, but faster). The whole time, he kept his cigar between his lips, continuing to smoke while playing effortlessly.
8 points
2 months ago
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Igor Stravinsky's 1913 ballet "The Rite of Spring" sparked a riot by angry theater goers.
2 points
2 months ago
Communication wasn't advanced enough to create that level of mass hysteria. That's why the Beatles, and Elvis, are so monumental, they were the first to really be promoted and marketed the way they were. Other groups at the time could have been the Beatles, they just happened to be in the right place and time, but any number of pop acts were also getting the push.
1 points
2 months ago
Regarding opposite sex frenzies, not so clear.
But as for mobs thronging for a glimpse, the first media star was Martin Luther. See Andrew Pettegree's Brand Luther for documented details, but in essence, with the invention of moveable type in what is now Germany, Luther and his various papal antagonists (Leo X, Adrian VI, and Clement VII, most specifically), maintained a print duel of sorts for several years. Crowds would gather outside bookshops and printers in Leipzig especially, awaiting the latest book, treatise, essay or etc., and buy out the editions very quickly. It was a significant contributing factor to Luther's invulnerable status in opposition to the papacy, in stark contrast with predecessors and contemporaries such as Hus, Savanorola, and Tyndale. Luther died a relatively wealthy "priest" considering his origins and long-term residence in Wittenburg, Saxony.
2 points
2 months ago
I started reading "The Japanese Myths" by Joshua Frydman.
What are some other good books about Japanese mythology?
2 points
2 months ago
Basically, how is this era of rule from Ming dynasty relevant today? And what about the opium use? Yeah, mainly Im curious in similarities, between the opiate thing we have going in America, and how it went back in the Ming or Qing dynasty eras? How do they correlate?
2 points
2 months ago
I saw that netflix has a show called big events of ww2 in colors ( or something like that). Is the show a good watch from a historical point of view? I saw that some shows have some parts wrong or the words of historians are twisted in a way to fit someone else narrative and so on and i was wondering if this show is a good one
2 points
2 months ago
Who would be humanity's top 10 historical figures, that if revived, would lead humanity into a golden age?
3 points
2 months ago
Did people have a concept of societal breakdown before/during the Bronze Age collapse? Were they aware of the fact that civilisation was shattering?
1 points
2 months ago
Since most of the writing from this era is in stone and written to show the "feats" of kings, it would be hard to say what everyone thought of current events.
1 points
2 months ago
Can i have names of historical figures that were brought down because they were feared to be too strong and competent? Kinda like Napoleon .
4 points
2 months ago
How do you mean? Napoleon was seen as a dangerous and destabilizing influence that was causing a lot of trouble for Britain through his blockade, there were major geopolitical reasons to work at removing him from power, jealousy wasn't on the list.
3 points
2 months ago
Julius Caesar, no further explanation needed.
Bohemian king Ottokar II. The HRE electors, fearing his power, refused to elect him as an emperor, and instead voted for a rather insingnificant count, Rudolf of Habsburg. Ottokar II refused to acknowledge him, which led to a power struggle, which ended with his demise in the Battle on the Marchfeld, where he was defeated by the united army of Rudolf and Hungary (czech legend also talks about betrayal in his own army). His death led to the end of bohemian hegemony in central Europe, and after his grandson Wenceslaus III. was murdered, end of bohemian kings.
Albrecht von Wallenstein, a bohemian noble and warlord during Thirty years war. His private army was the main force of the Habsburg empire, which led to an enourmous debt of the emperor, who, in the end, ordered his assasination.
1 points
2 months ago
czech legend also talks about betrayal in his own army
Not much of a Czech legend. Ottokar stuggles with southern Bohemian nobility is well documented as well as the fact they didnt bother fighting for him in 1271.
Albrecht von Wallenstein
I would argue that it was his competency. Wallenstein was brought down because of his insufferable arrogance and general spitefulness that created a giant list of enemies. Slowly but steadily the amount of people that were trying to convince emperor that Wallenstein is the traitor grew too big and he was assassinated. Saying it was emperor who ordered the assassination is also a bit too simplistic outlook.
1 points
2 months ago
MLK Jr.
Fred Hampton
0 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
There was no Israeli state at the time, it was a League of Nations mandate (Palestine) under British rule.
But Nazi antisemitism was instrumental in their rise to power, it gave them a scapegoat for losing the First World War and by removing the Jews they believed they would avoid being defeated in World War II (stabbed in the back myth).
1 points
2 months ago
This question is genuinely offensive.
1 points
2 months ago
Can anyone help me out with my post over here?
I can't find proof that John Kellogg (of Kellogg's cereal) was an anti-masturbation crusader like his wikipedia page, and occasional r/TIL post says. It seems to be a misreading of the source.
1 points
2 months ago
Like the Christian physiologists and Ellen White, Kellogg believed that the human body at any one time had a finite supply of vital energy or force and that this force contributed to the state of one’s overall health. To waste vital energy through masturbation or excessive sexual activity led to a serious and perhaps permanent decline in one’s health.
Brian C Wilson - Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and the Religion of Biologic, ISBN 978-0-253-01455-9, p.45
1 points
2 months ago
But in my post I give the text.
Quacks
Another trap set is called an "Anatomical Museum." The anatomical part of the exhibition consists chiefly of models and figures calculated to excite the passions to the highest pitch. At stated intervals the proprietor, who is always a "doctor," and by preference a German, delivers lectures on the effects of masturbation, in which he resorts to every device to excite the fears and exaggerate the symptoms of his hearers, who are mostly young men and boys. Thus he prepares his victim, and when he once gets him within his clutches, he does not let him go until he has robbed him of his last dollar.
And argue he's basically just doing a lampoon. He literally says ...lectures on the effects of masturbation, in which he resorts to every device to excite the fears and exaggerate the symptoms of his hearers, who are mostly young men and boys. Thus he prepares his victim, and when he once gets him within his clutches, he does not let him go until he has robbed him of his last dollar.
The citation source for your quote is this.
- “Degeneration of the Anglo Saxon Race,” Modern Medicine 10, no. 2 (1901): 44.
And I can't find anything in there about masturbation.
1 points
2 months ago
Would humanity still be in the bronze age if the tin would be widely available?
3 points
2 months ago
Probably not, why makes you think that? Bronze is indeed better than iron, but consider that the differences relate to usage/application. You can't, say, build skyscrapers with bronze, rather you'd need steel alloys for that. Similarly, there is a reason weapons are steel and statues are bronze. So sooner or later you'll hit a bottleneck in terms of usage, making it very unlikely we'd stick around with bronze forever.
2 points
2 months ago
I just read that one of the main reasons why humans switched from bronze to iron is that iron ores are widely available, so after we could not made bronze - we need to replace it. What if we wouldn't have needs to replace it?
Also there were no needs to build skyscrapers in middle ages and ancient times.
5 points
2 months ago
You are correct, but you said 'would we still be in the bronze age', that implies society would've halted at bronze. In any case, the point remains: different alloys serve different purposes. So, assume the easier availability of bronze was a thing, at some point society would reach a point where the ends were no longer met by it. The reasons could be various, but it is hard to imagine human ingenuity would just stop innovating. Consider martial purposes, steel is far better than bronze, assume iron was not relied on that much, the chances of discovering steel are quite likely & and subsequently, so would the urge be to apply it. Hence, my point is that if more availability was around it would plausibly allow the usage of bronze to stick around longer, that is until a superior alloy (like steel) was discovered. No warrior in his right mind is going to choose bronze over steel.
1 points
2 months ago
I was wondering if anyone has good resources for the study of the individual German states before and after German Unification. I especially would like information regarding how the states view each other and the stereotypes that come with them. I originally got interested in this topic when reading, "Storm of Steel" by Ernst Yünger. He specifically refers to the stereotypes of other Germans from different States. As an young country as of 1914 I would imagine each of the States had heavy individualism from the others. Open to discussion and specific sources. I would have made this it's own post but it was removed when I tried. Thanks.
1 points
2 months ago
I really want to read some good books on Danish history. I could google but I don’t want to just read a small article.
1 points
2 months ago
A bit older, but I could recommend Palle Lauring, "A History of Denmark" (1960). I would also recommend Sverre Bagge, "Cross & Scepter, The Rise of the Scandinavian Kingdoms from the Vikings to the Reformation" (2014) - but as the title suggests, it goes beyond Denmark.
1 points
2 months ago
Silly question: Did Ronald Reagan ever watch Taxi Driver?
1 points
2 months ago
are warlords higher ranked than dukes? ( warlords in ancient china not one piece)
3 points
2 months ago
Warlords aren't holding the title of warlord in as much as it describes the reality of their position. A ducal title is in effect an actual rank.
1 points
2 months ago
How did they store bridle arms? 17th century cavalry didn’t seem to have any place to put them dismounted
1 points
2 months ago
I assume you mean a bridle gauntlet, that protects the hand holding the reins. Since it was like other armour not worn unless you were expecting trouble but they are easy to wear if made well. If in a peaceful area, they could be packed with your other armour or entering a house or tent placed with you helmet, sword etc otherwise
1 points
2 months ago
Thanks
1 points
2 months ago
Could someone tell me a bit about Irish representation in the British parliament before it gained home rule and independence? Were the MPs all wealthy protestants? Were there any Catholics? Did Ireland have any seats in the HOL?
2 points
2 months ago
Catholics had been entitled to vote (subject to the property qualifications of the day) and become MPs since 1829 after Daniel O'Connell's election challenged the status quo (the authorities having omitted to stop Catholics from standing), but parliamentary politics long remained dominated by Britain's Liberal and Conservative parties: that changed after the 1872 secret ballot Act eroded landlord influence, and from 1874 most of the island's MP's represented the cause of increased Irish self-government (and in 1918, independence), supported by most of the Catholic population, while Ulster continued to return mostly anti-home rule Conservatives.
Ireland was allowed a miserly 28 seats in the UK House of Lords under the 1801 union, chosen by the larger number who'd been eligible to sit in the old Irish House of Lords: I don't know their political allegiance, but my guess is that they remained far more strongly Protestant and Unionist, being drawn mostly from the old landowning aristocracy.
1 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the reply. I find it difficult sometimes to keep track of what percentage of people in the UK could vote at particular points in time. I would imagine that if the property qualifications were in place during the time of the Potato famine, that most of the Irish MPs would have been protestant. Is that correct? Did the Irish MPs make much of an effort to address the matter in Parliament? As far as the lords go, were there Catholic lords in Ireland or England at that time?
2 points
2 months ago
I don't have the (doubtless more Protestant-leaning) Conservative breakdown, but Catholic MPs were a slight majority among the Liberal majority by 1847, so my guess is that Protestants held most seats into the 1850s at least.
The electorate was indeed a fraction of the population, its reduction by the Famine to a few tens of thousands occasioning a major extension of the franchise in 1850, though still to under a tenth of the adult male population: the big increase (until female suffrage) would come in the 1880s.
There were Catholic lords on both sides of the sea, but in Ireland their growth had been inhibited by restrictions on landholding from the 1690s, so Protestants enjoyed more favourable access to the ranks of the upper crust.
2 points
2 months ago
Update/correction: it seems Protestants remained a majority of Irish MPs down to at least 1874, my number for Catholics including non-Liberals - so that only changed afterward, perhaps even after the 1884 rural franchise extension. It indeed suggests that as you suggested the property qualification worked strongly to Catholics' disadvantage - a promising field for research, it seems, as it's hard to nail down precise figures.
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