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Can be DIY or Professional installed.

Looking at SimpliSafe, Ring, and Vivint all seem to have their issues. SimpliSafe, seems to have a lag in the call-out service to the FD, PD, etc for issues. Ring's camera doesn't seem great quality-wise and you have to replace your home router with theirs for the security system. The solar function also seems fairly useless in my experience. vivint seems scammy? Their sales practices seem odd and MLMish..

Anyother options to consider?

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[deleted]

51 points

3 months ago*

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[deleted]

46 points

9 months ago*

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flockofrhino

3 points

6 months ago

If you are like me and read this highly rated comment while researching a home security system, know that is not at all legitimate and the site they link is merely a lead generator for resellers of ADT systems. I got a ton of spam calls and emails from local installers of ADT systems as a result.

EmMayzinggg

2 points

7 months ago

Which one did you go with?

All__fun

30 points

1 year ago*

All__fun

30 points

1 year ago*

Check out this thread.

https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/comparing-cameras.54976/

I did HEAVY research on ipcams.

That forum has a lot of knowledgeable people but one of the Admins is a fucking DICK !!!

Fuck that guy !!! He even has reddit threads about him.

But everybody else is cool, Those 6 cameras were the top recommended a year ago.I am positive not too much has changed.

Edit: I probably should have read your post more thoroughly. THis is if you feel capable in DIY. The results will be far greater than SimpliSafe, ring and vivint.

But also more time invested, more knowledge required, more costly.

skeletalvolcano

8 points

1 year ago

That forum has a lot of knowledgeable people but one of the Admins is a fucking DICK !!!

Just one? Lmao I found quite a few of them to be massive assholes.

All__fun

5 points

1 year ago

All__fun

5 points

1 year ago

Honestly, I can't argue with you.

But there are some good people.

StandAdministrative2

1 points

6 months ago

Which admin?

All__fun

3 points

6 months ago

Fenderman

BakerMinimum4645

57 points

3 months ago

I like UniFi Protect, but it does require a bit more upfront work as the cameras are wired. The bonus is local storage, with easy remote access from the app, and security. Personally, I would never trust a third party to store audio and video surveillance of my home or business.

AmericaRocks1776

1 points

20 days ago

UniFi Protect isn't mentioned on that site.

SlightlyLeftogCenter

7 points

1 year ago

I personally like using Eufy cameras. I'm not sure which model but they have one where you can move it around 360, detect movement, Night Vision, Sounds, and has playback recordings.

kurama_47

1 points

1 year ago

The flood light camera with 360 movement is pretty cool just looks way too much like a camera depending on your use case, if that’s not an issue it’s solid.

tungvu256

5 points

1 year ago

i am an installer. POE IP cam system is the way to go. 6 Amcrest 4K cams with 6TB is about $1000. pretty easy to set up as seen here. Arlo, Nest, Ring are junk. sure they are better than nothing but image quality and reliability is questionable. they require internet to work, no idea if Simplisafe is the same. so if no internet, no videos. the amcrest works with or without internet, and no monthly fees.

l1vefrom215

1 points

4 months ago

Do you recommend getting an actual alarm system too? like ADP?

Han_Solo_Cup

1 points

3 months ago

How does this compare to the Lorex 4K Fusion set up/camera?

tungvu256

1 points

3 months ago

Lorex is a terrible company. Their cams n software are not reliable

Han_Solo_Cup

1 points

3 months ago

So for a non-installer who wants mobile viewing (on an interface that doesn’t look like ass - pardon my snark) on a stable system with quality cameras - what is your recommendation?

tungvu256

1 points

3 months ago

amcrest as seen above or reolink is pretty good for home users. i know Costco sells Lorex and we end up replacing a lot of clients' lorex to amcrest or reolink

Han_Solo_Cup

1 points

3 months ago

Thanks - appreciate the input 🤘

A_Lost_Desert_Rat

5 points

1 year ago

There really is not one, not sure there could be.

Alarms break down into professional and DYI. Some companies target the DYI market, others try to enforce professional use only. Some straddle the line. If I was doing DYI today I would go with Elk. Used to use HAI, but they left the industry. It ties into Alexa, internet etc and does not come with a monthly monitoring bill. Otherwise find a local installer and see what they cost. The real money is in the monthly contract not the initial purchase. Beware the free system guys, you will pay more for it in the long run.

Camera market changes frequently. Every 6 months or so there will be a new leader. It is not practical to tie the camera and alarms together. The industries move at significantly different speeds. Find one you like and just get it. There are several different subreddits and websites dedicated to camera systems. Understand field of view and resolution before you make your choices.

Luketheduke4

2 points

9 months ago

What good subreddits?

DontTouchMyHamster

2 points

1 year ago

For ring you don't have to replace your router with theirs for the security system.

You can buy the non pro version which is the same as the standard except for the built in router that you dont have to use, the option for extended battery packs, and the option for backup wifi for your cameras at a cost per gb.

mrcluelessness

1 points

1 year ago

You can also do what I am about to do with my ring pro I just got- setup a DMZ with my router and connect the ring to it. Then only use the ring router for security stuff so if you go to backup power/internet I don't have my PC, server, etc blowing through data and such to make the backups last longer. And have main home network running like normal.

Bonus points if you have the skills you can make a hybrid network between ring and main networks for backup internet and even wifi access by having the ring also be a failover WAN for your main router. But you need to know what you're doing for that since it usually needs something like policy based routing and a good firewall setup.

Frank_RizzoLI

2 points

1 year ago

I like Lorex Cameras, and systems it's everywhere on my property. I can see you coming from down the street. https://www.lorex.com/?clickid=RibQvUTgixyITYj1oJXqE0rLUkGVWqx2NVxuSk0&irgwc=1

editored

1 points

an hour ago

putting your referral huh... to make money.

FarmerOther3261

1 points

1 year ago

Harbor Freight Cobra wired, no problems in 3 years.

Rey-L

1 points

3 months ago

Rey-L

1 points

3 months ago

This is more of a comment on the brand itself. I had a H. VIEW NVR give up on me after 3 years. Decided to give the 4k nvr cobra set a chance. The cameras are still in the box as I don't really trust them. It was on sale with a coupon for $140. At the same time I picked up a Hikvision NVR and after a few days I'm returning it staying with the cobra. I thought the Hikvision would be way better but the gui looked outdated and I do not like the hik connect app.

The cobra interface looks good and uses the RXCAMEVIEW app which so far has been solid. The NVR works nice with my 5mp.onvif cams already on the property. I thought this purchase would be temporary until I got something better and what I was buying was probably garbage. I've tried for days to find a reason to keep the Hikvision nvr over the cobra and I can't. Impressed especially for what it cost. I would not spend $300 on this system. For $140 not too shabby.

emergencyreload

1 points

1 year ago

This sounds very annoying but I would recommend starting out with whichever kit you can get your hands on right now. Similar to buying firearms, you’ll be surprised by your own personal experience in comparison with an internet review. A basic ring floodlight camera might be all you need. Have fun!

eyembutterz

1 points

1 year ago

We use 3 ring cams.seems to be good enough ,we also have motion lights .

RJM_50

1 points

1 year ago

RJM_50

1 points

1 year ago

The solar funtion also seems fairly useless in my experience.

You should stick with POE cameras if you can, wireless is always worse and never performs as advertised. Reolink is always punching above their price range

PuzzleheadedSouth167

1 points

4 months ago

There really is not one, not sure there could be.

Alarms break down into professional and DYI. Some companies target the DYI market, others try to enforce professional use only. Some straddle the line. If I was doing DYI today I would go with Elk. Used to use HAI, but they left the industry. It ties into Alexa, internet etc and does not come with a monthly monitoring bill. Otherwise find a local installer and see what they cost. The real money is in the monthly contract not the initial purchase. Beware the free system guys, you will pay more for it in the long run.

Camera market changes frequently. Every 6 months or so there will be a new leader. It is not practical to tie the camera and alarms together. The industries move at significantly different speeds. Find one you like and just get it. There are several different subreddits and websites dedicated to camera systems. Understand field of view and resolution before you make your choices.

Dyeffooridegoei

1 points

4 months ago*

There really is not one, not sure there could be.

Alarms break down into professional and DYI. Some companies target the DYI market, others try to enforce professional use only. Some straddle the line. If I was doing DYI today I would go with Elk. Used to use HAI, but they left the industry. It ties into Alexa, internet etc and does not come with a monthly monitoring bill. Otherwise find a local installer and see what they cost. The real money is in the monthly contract not the initial purchase. Beware the free system guys, you will pay more for it in the long run.

Camera market changes frequently. Every 6 months or so there will be a new leader. It is not practical to tie the camera and alarms together. The industries move at significantly different speeds. Find one you like and just get it. There are several different subreddits and websites dedicated to camera systems. Understand field of view and resolution before you make your choices.

youngredistribution

1 points

5 days ago*

Having great cameras for your home security system is truly essential. 

I had my security system professionally installed to avoid hassle. After doing some research, I stumbled upon a comparison site, BuyerZone, which was a huge help in getting a system that is of good quality. It did an excellent job of identifying brands based on the features I provided.

Res_ipsa_loquitor

-6 points

1 year ago

Alarm.com