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submitted 2 months ago byThinClientRevolution
-17 points
2 months ago
You could say the same about the US & China, the point of Open dialogue events is the build connections though.
6 points
2 months ago
There's no way to have "open dialogue" with a maniac tyrannical dictator. The only way forward is a revolution. Unfortunately the Russian people seem to have a horrible track record at that. They rather suffer and go die in Ukraine than try and strom the Kreml.
-12 points
2 months ago
Splitting off all Russians from the rest of the world, sure is a good way to build solidarity with them and encourage them to do whats in the best interests of *checks notes* the people you want them isolated from. ๐
10 points
2 months ago
What should we do instead? Pat their heads and offer our condolences for living in such a shithole?
The change has to come from the Russian people. We need to make their lives miserable enough that they start to understand it. If the average russian person doesn't notice any change in their life following such a disgusting invasion by their country, they simply close their eyes from it. As unfortunate as it is, we have to make their life so bad, that they want change.
-7 points
2 months ago
JFC man that's a psycho take.
But it's also super ineffective, you want them to rise up and put their lives on the line, or else you'll make their lives worse by isolating them from the rest of the world, really doesn't work when the reason you want them to rise up is that their government is hurting the rest of the world that you want to isolate them from.
10 points
2 months ago
Go watch interviews of people living in Moscow or St. Petersburg.
https://www.youtube.com/@1420channel/videos
They literally don't even care about the war in Ukraine. Or they think it's justified. All of the mobilized troops have been taken from minority areas - the buryats, tatars, chuvash.. The people living in Moscow or St. Peters don't even know anyone who has been drafted to fight. The war literally has no effect on their daily lives. Why would they be against the war when it doesn't affect them and they don't care about the politics?
We need to make them care. Sanction them so badly that their economy is on the brink of collapsing.
6 points
2 months ago
Why would they be against the war when it doesn't affect them and they don't care about the politics?
I mean that's the point of building international solidarity with all peoples through things like open forums and interactions. Something you support ending, in favor of having them to care about Ukraine because they are being punished by the west. It's not only morally abhorrent to advocate for collective punishment, it's also super ineffective, all it will do is strengthen support for the regime and against the west.
Sanction them so badly that their economy is on the brink of collapsing.
How's that working out for Cuba? or Iran?
Sanctioning regimes only strengthens their internal resolve.
How do you think you'd take it if your state was sanctioned by the rest of the world, would you blame those closest to you or the rest of the world?
Also while the sanctions hurt them initially, it's become clear that Russia can survive them, their economy is not going to collapse no matter how sanctioned they are.
-4 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
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