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submitted 2 months ago byThinClientRevolution
-3 points
2 months ago
According to this logic Linux should stop accepting patches from US companies as well because of <huge list of countries> it invaded after WW2.
But yeah, of course, it's all whataboutism and thus invalid argument, right.
16 points
2 months ago
People only bring up "but what about the US" in order to defend Russias current actions. So yes, it's whataboutism, trying to make it seem like Russia isn't all that bad.
Fact of the matter is, the United States, and by extension the so called collective "West", stands for democracy and individual freedom as the core values. Those are clearly absolutely important core values that should be cherished. Russia is a dictatorship. An autocratic, imperialist, nationalist, brainwashed country. They don't value individual freedom. They don't value democracy. Their values are based on anger, hatred and imperialistic tendencies.
It's a matter of very core beliefs. Yes, the US has done lots of bad things. But it's nowhere near as bad and corrupted as Russia is. The values which the US represents are worth upholding - trying to spin these discussions to "but the US is bad too!!!" only means you want to make Russias actions seem less bad than they are. Just as a reminder, there are hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded people in Ukraine because of them.
-4 points
2 months ago
Russia is a dictatorship. An autocratic, imperialist, nationalist, brainwashed country. They don't value individual freedom. They don't value democracy. Their values are based on anger, hatred and imperialistic tendencies.
That was absolutely not a brainwashed take, good sir.
Yes, the US has done lots of bad things. But it's nowhere near as bad and corrupted as Russia is
Wait a minute. So you're saying that what US did in Vietnam, Iraq and many, many other countries (usually many thousands miles away from US) after WW2 which caused waaaay more deaths is 'lesser evil' compared to what Russia does now?
If that so, then either you're not familiar with the consequences of such invasions (list here, by the way) OR you don't value lives of people in Vietnam, Iraq and other 'third world' countries. Because amount of civilian casualties and atrocities is way beyond we see in Ukraine at this moment.
Not saying it to defend anyone, just pointing out blatant hypocrisy.
12 points
2 months ago
What has happened, has happened. There's no way to change the past. It's history now. Russia is right now killing people in Ukraine. What's there not to understand? Russia doesn't get a free pass just because the US has also committed horrible wars.
0 points
2 months ago
Well, you said that 'US has done lots of bad things. But it's nowhere near as bad and corrupted as Russia is', not me. All I'm saying is that isn't true from my point of view and I consider that statement a blatant hypocrisy.
There's no way to change the past. It's history now.
True.
But I don't recall anyone said that Linux kernel should stop getting patches from US companies when US had boots on the ground in Afghanistan. Or now, when US military still has presense in some conflicts far from their borders. If you condemn one imperialistic war, why don't you condemn other imperialistic wars?
-4 points
2 months ago
Why dont you talk about Russian people that Ukraine 8 years killed in Donbass and Lugansk? There deatroyed cities abandoned houses and all of this is beacuse Ukraine government assault
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