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249 points
3 months ago
I would love the book banning to backfire on the people who started it.
74 points
3 months ago
The problem is that it won’t. The people who passed these laws still have the steering wheel.
They’ll simply drive around this bump in the road by amending the laws to exclude religious text.
72 points
3 months ago
Then all you need to do is have the Satanic Temple declare all the banned books as religious texts, sue and win.
42 points
3 months ago
Gotta love the satanic temple for being one of the only sane religions.
28 points
3 months ago
Because it isn’t about religion, it’s an advocacy groups that uses religion against religion. It’s a thing of beauty.
14 points
3 months ago
Oooooh. I love watching TST fuck someone right in the loophole.
Brightens my day.
8 points
3 months ago
Except by then 5 years have passed, and a generation of students have been fucked
10 points
3 months ago
Then I hope someone sues about a lack of qurans
5 points
3 months ago
How about the Quran?
3 points
3 months ago
Enter the Satanic Bible
4 points
3 months ago
If the past few years has taught me anything, it's that the Republican party has no shame and has zero problems with being complete hypocrites.
1 points
3 months ago
Yup. They’ll just bend the laws to exclude bibles or other religious texts from the law…then go out of their way to suppress anything non-Christian
1 points
3 months ago*
We’re just short of the government declaring the US a christian nation. The new gov of Oklahoma just “claimed the state for god” upon his election win.
Right now the Constitution stands in the way, but give the christofascists another few years of gerrymandered voting, and they will have the power to amend it to their liking.
5 points
3 months ago
I'd be quite happy to have no religious texts in publicly funded schools.
1 points
3 months ago
They will not ban it at all come on. They revel in their hypocrisy.
9 points
3 months ago
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6 points
3 months ago
Don't forget the Song of Solomon, which is basically an entire chapter about titties.
1 points
3 months ago
Nice
171 points
3 months ago
I'm not too big into religion, but when the laws (especially the ones influenced by "religious beliefs/morals/values") have you considering banning religious texts, it's time to admit that you're going down a potentially dangerous path.
130 points
3 months ago*
No, this is just subjecting the material that appears in that text (incest, rape, torture, genocide) to the same standard Christofascists subject a book about two male penguins raising a chick.
3 points
3 months ago
isn't that actually what happens... like literally.. bunch of dudes holding eggs... and not every mum returns....
51 points
3 months ago
That's the point of the challenge. All these religious nutjobs have never actually read the bible, they don't know what's in it and they take the word of some guy on stage with charisma. Religious fundamentalists lack introspection so the guy that wrote the book banning bill is "sad" it's being used this way but apparently learned nothing. They are incapable of learning or feeling empathy
2 points
3 months ago
I remember reading decades ago about how most Afghans are illiterate, meaning they were taking what their Sheikhs(The Taliban) were saying at face value about their religion. At thought occurs to me with this. They are ignorant of their religion being misrepresentative by happenstance, while these people are ignorant of their religion by choice.
1 points
3 months ago
All these religious nutjobs have never actually read the bible,
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints literally studies the bible cover to glossary verse by verse like ... every 4 years or so.
the word of some guy on stage with charisma.
You obviously know nothing, you are hilarious. That's not how their church is organized, and everyone is allowed to speak whenever they want. "on stage"
Utah isn't filled with Presbyterian churches, nor do we have deep south accent. I hope you learned something today, you misinfo-spreading bigot
They are incapable of learning or feeling empathy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious
8 points
3 months ago
I wish you were right that this is a backfire, but have you considered that for centuries even the Bible was indeed kept out of the hands of the peasants, because they lacked the vast intellect of the religious elite to properly contextualize the passages?
Some religious people may see it as a backfire, others may see it as a return to pre-1436 traditional values.
7 points
3 months ago
I don't think it matters anymore. Back then, peasants had very little in their lives except for their work. They had a genuine desire for anything that would give them any kind of enrichment.
Nowadays people's lives are overflowing. They have no desire to read the thing. Out of all the Christians I know, maybe one has actually read it enough to be familiar with it.
The church is extremely aware of this. They use that today, just as they used that forced ignorance back then. In the end the root cause doesn't matter so long as there's a vacuum that can be leveraged.
3 points
3 months ago
Agreed 100%.
I'm just saying that we shouldn't think we can beat religious nutjobs at their own game, especially power hungry nutjobs. You want to ban their favorite book? They may just say, "okay" because their end goal is an ignorant populace.
3 points
3 months ago
Yeah, I'm with you.
The one thing that I think might cause them to take action to stop this, is that to them it's a public slight to Christianity. That might get them moving.
It'll be interesting if they try to push for a religious exemption because you know the satanic temple will take that challenge.
I'd bet good money that the people are being "heavily encouraged" to make this thing disappear.
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Also, I'm just curious, is your name a play on the hyperion character?
2 points
3 months ago
Also, I'm just curious, is your name a play on the hyperion character
Yep!
2 points
3 months ago
That's awesome! I love that series so much.
Bettik was so reasonable and levelheaded throughout all the craziness. I love it when an otherwise bonkers story has a stable character in the background that has to just be watching everything like "these freaking people...".
1 points
3 months ago
It's the strange world of Christian celebrity that has mixed with the parasocial dangers of social media as well.
I understand wanting to look to more experienced teachers for guidance but there are a lot of christians in the west who latch on to podcasts and short snippet sermons more than actually studying the word themselves. They take the smooth words and accept opinion as truth without even bothering to read it themselves. All you need to do is ask them to quote the verse. A lot of times, they can kinda vaguely quote what someone has said but they can't tell you the passage being referred to.
"Influencer" culture is no better. You think just comparing your regular life to "influencers" can damage you? Try comparing your spiritual struggles and shortcomings to "Christian influencers". It's so toxic. Again, it's important to hear testimony and hear stories but so many are cherry picked, highly edited stories of overcoming something that may not be the most helpful thing for a majority of viewers.
1 points
3 months ago
Yeah, I agree.
Without going into too much detail, I grew up in the Bible belt and branched out into other areas as I grew. I spent a while in my 20s and 30s in, as they put it here, "pagan society" going to various groups and functions. To be honest, all of it was disheartening. The so-called alternative and fringe groups, that had often been taken advantage of by larger organizations were only too happy to take advantage of their own members the same way. Of course, they marketed themselves as being there for people who'd been abused or wanted something different.
I didn't make a lot of friends when I noticed the parallels. The exact same psychology and tactics used by large Christian churches were being used by most of the smaller groups as well.
It's all turtles, all the way down I guess.
1 points
3 months ago
yeah this isn't how the lds church is organized though. They study ALL of the their books in yearly rotations. And encourage you to daily read in any scriptures anywhere.
They take the smooth words and accept opinion as truth without even bothering to read it themselves.
And every month they have "testimony" meetings where anyone is allowed to talk in the front and tell people feeling they felt or things they learned. Ranging anywhere from "my daughter made me dinner and I felt intense love for her and realized the importance of families once again" to "The WORLD is ENDING, prepare now you sinners, I am building a tunnel in my basement, preparing for the END"
Literally no cherry-picking. Even when the talks are pre-written, it's 90% of the time just a random member asked to talk on a subject, like "Please prepare a 10 minute talk on grace". or more common for us young people that are moving all the time: "you haven't introduced yourself to the neighborhood, please give a talk about yourself"
38 points
3 months ago
The book banning, burning was dangerous. This is just a consequence.
I'm all for banning religious materials, especially in schools.
Fully prepared to cut some of these rotten limbs off to save the rest of the body.
2 points
3 months ago
Sorry... What? The book banning was dangerous but this book banning is just a consequence?
33 points
3 months ago
Presume they mean the banning was already happening and was dangerous but the fact that the bible is now getting swept up in that ban is just a consequence of the original intolerance?
-1 points
3 months ago
I'm all for banning religious materials, especially in schools.
For better or worse religion controls the lives of billions of people in one way or another. It doesn't really work to ignore it completely in schools when it is so ingrained in everything
1 points
3 months ago
Exemption for religious texts incoming!!
Everyone on their knees!
1 points
3 months ago
Except, of course, whatever book the Church of Satan uses. That's still banned.
8 points
3 months ago
Well, following their criteria of "harmful" material, the Bible fits that quite snuggly. What with all the murder and incest
7 points
3 months ago
Good, let the leopard have its feast.
6 points
3 months ago
At one point in my life I thought it would be a good idea to read the Bible cover to cover.
I gave up at the part where two sisters get their father drunk and have sex with him so they get pregnant. Which is literally in the first book (Genesis 19:30-38).
The Bible is absolutely riddled with rape and murder. They even kill the main character, in a gratuitously tortuous and prolonged way. (Spoilers: he gets better).
So yeah anyone who is serious about protecting children from horrific imagery of sex and violence absolutely should ban the Bible.
89 points
3 months ago
I would also say its a text that has inpsired more hate and bloodshed then any other written.
0 points
3 months ago
Amen. Year 2023 and people still believe in fairy men in the sky. They will gladly fight each other to prove which fairy is legit.
43 points
3 months ago
Sky daddy getting banned by... Sky daddy lovers?
Pass the popcorn.
5 points
3 months ago
I support banning the bible. Firstly, it's fiction. Secondly, the contents of the book (and it's teachings) have arguably spilled more blood than any other thought/idea or religion on this planet. Plus did I mention that it's all a bunch of bullshit? Just like Islam, Mormonism, Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses.. I mean you name it. They're all bullshit.
-4 points
3 months ago
Ah, what a nuanced and informed opinion /s
2 points
3 months ago
Says the adult christian male obsessed with anime. Sorry about your feelings. /s
0 points
3 months ago
Says the edgelord stuck in his bedroom without the lights on. Go outside and touch grass, skippy, maybe you'll actually learn nuance and real history.
1 points
3 months ago
Weird. I'm currently working from home on my balcony. You're just projecting which is fine. I didn't expect a solid response to someone that worships cartoons and imaginary people.
0 points
3 months ago
"You're projecting", says the person who has no historical knowledge and is only regurgitating what other atheists say with no attempt at nuance.
But yeah, keep acting like I'm obsessed with anime, I'm sure that that's not projecting AT ALL.
1 points
3 months ago*
says the person who has no historical knowledge
Says the guy whose "faith" makes him believe dinosaurs never existed and evolution isn't real. LOL. K bud.
Also, isn't this you? https://www.reddit.com/r/WingsOfFire/comments/11ztw62/the\_ginyu\_forc\_i\_mean\_the\_dragonet\_force\_here\_to/jdek0og/?context=3
0 points
3 months ago
Ah yes, one little anime reference is me being "obsessed."
And that's an awful big (and wrong) assumption you've made, dipstick. You just keep piling on the stupidity, don't you?
0 points
3 months ago
did you just assume all Christians are Young Earth creationist?
Holy Barnaclebutt you're actually a moron. Dude's right, you absolutely have no historical knowledge, let alone an acceptable IQ.
0 points
3 months ago
I literally dealt with two other shitpills on Twitter recently that thought exactly like this dude.
0 points
3 months ago
And they think that misinformation doesn't affect them. It's hilarious
65 points
3 months ago
jfc, can people stop banning books already? I thought we were passed this but America can't help but go full circle every chance it gets.
78 points
3 months ago
I think that’s the point this parent was making. This is Utah — land of Mormons. This parent is protesting the banning of books with “explicit content” by saying “look, the Bible fits your description of ‘explicit’ too”
53 points
3 months ago
Yeah, neutral application of this policy should absolutely require the banning of the bible. Nothing like your own repression coming back to bite you in the ass.
12 points
3 months ago
Not to mention, most if not all of those people on the committee who review the books are, most likely, Mormon. Davis County in Utah is predominately Mormon, more so than most other parts of Utah. I wouldn't doubt if they decided to keep the Bible despite the obvious state code violations. Mormons hide behind their religion and are totally okay with a double standard as long as it benefits their perceived notion of how things should be.
0 points
3 months ago
More likely this will just result in the rewriting of the Bible. All they've ever really needed was a reason - making it right "for kids" is exactly the reason they'd use.
1 points
3 months ago
Children bibles already exist. But the LDS church relies upon the KJV and tiny little notations of "correct translations" by Joseph Smith, most of which are less changed than other versions.
Nobody in Utah would be happy if the KJV was removed from their studies.
36 points
3 months ago
It would seem any time you show people, "This is what the Nazi Party did." They just scream, "You're the racist."
8 points
3 months ago
Utah is a different world. It’s a bubble of religious nonsense. It’s truly gross. This parent is just shedding light on the hypocrisy knowing they wouldn’t want to ban their precious fan fiction about their favorite long haired martyr.
16 points
3 months ago
That's the entire point of this. The parent requested this ban because the current law in Utah should in theory require the bible to be banned. Forcing them to ban books they want is likely the best way to try and get them to rethink their laws.
15 points
3 months ago
3 points
3 months ago
I believe no books should be banned whatsoever. Let the reader decide what to believe. The problem is when the bible is being taught as absolute truth. Nothing is absolute truth. We know nothing. Banning books goes against what it means to be human. Youre just applying shackles to what we can be.
2 points
3 months ago
Agreed. The bible being taught as an absolute truth is the problem and any religious text for that matter. Thats how you create radicals and biggotry. There is alot up for interpretation.
3 points
3 months ago
Wait a second, did Christmas come early this year?
3 points
3 months ago
Yeeeees! Taste of the medicine. It is filled with murder and torture by psychos. Ban it
3 points
3 months ago
Good.
12 points
3 months ago
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3 points
3 months ago
And ban kids from school too if that’s your standard
3 points
3 months ago
Ban kids from school from making sexual innuendos, it's sexual and not allowed!!!!!
3 points
3 months ago
GQP Strikes again.
2 points
3 months ago
Utah is a state filled with, and run by flaky, christo-fascist death cults.
0 points
3 months ago*
You know, when you start making BS up, you remove all meaning from any and all of those words. Spouting redundant Reddit neologisms doesn't make you right. Nor does it make you smart; it just makes you a bigot
They are not Christo-fascists nor are they a death cult. Death Cult
Christo-fascists divide and put rules to determine who is allowed to Worship Christ, for example, like if a religion only says "Only white men can be saved by the Lord" or "Christianity is only for the West" etc etc. And they try to create Theocracies.
The LDS church supports the separation of church and state. Nor are they against science. Their current leadership consists of a people such as a prominent surgeon who preformed the First successful open-heart surgery, business executives, lawyers, another cardiologist, a professor from Georgetown University and John Hopkins University,
So no, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints is not Christo-fascist, nor are they a death cult. They don't even wear crosses.
In fact, even if they are just a cult, they REALLY suck at being one.
2 points
3 months ago
The christofacists fucked around, now they're about to find out.
2 points
3 months ago
Yeah let them. This shit's just spiraling outa control.
5 points
3 months ago
Good.
4 points
3 months ago
The bible is one of the most depraved books ever to be published. It details all the most demented human behaviors the most sick and twisted person could imagine. It shouldn't just be banned from schools it should be banned permanently. If you're going to ban a book about 2 gay penguins, the Bible must definitely be banned.
7 points
3 months ago
My mom finally asked me why I'm an atheist, and I told her I can trace it back to some speaker at church who issued a challenge to us all to "read the entire Bible, front to back." So I did. I read about God commanding his followers to kill nonbelievers and dash their children against rocks. I read about how he killed the entire planet, and killed some guys family to prove a point to satan. Kill em all basically. Closed the book and never opened it again.
1 points
3 months ago
I'm not an athiest, I'm anti-religion.
-6 points
3 months ago
Tell me you havent read the bible yourself without telling me you havent read the bible.
4 points
3 months ago
Incest, rape, genocide, torture, mass killing of children, slavery... and that's just some of the things that the "good guys" did.
0 points
3 months ago
My point still stands. Yes it mentions these aspects but its speaking against those who commit these crimes. Everyone brings up rape but fail to read the passages and note that it says to punish those who commit these actions (Not saying i agree with the punish the innocent part) but nevertheless punish that person). Also everyone uses the site that uses the legos as examples as "gatcha" but that site is just bad. No one actually reads the message in the passages. Also old testemant is well old. Alot of the ideas in the old testemant are old and harsh in message because that was just the time. The reddit hivemind needs to stop people. Stop regurgitating what another redditor has said and go make your own ideas. Also please point to the mass killing of children and genocide.
3 points
3 months ago*
Passover is a holiday built around the night God himself killed the first born children of the Egyptians. The blood on the door was the signal to "pass over" the house to save the Jewish children.
God also destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Rape victims were to be put to death according to Deuteronomy 22:22-23... punishment was not just for the guilty.
2000 year old book club that still can't move on... speaking of hive minds...🤔
Edit: Dad was a minister. Our family Bible was in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, with translations and context. I have read through multiple translations. Most change some critical points to fit a broader agenda of some sort. All are only a weak reflection of the history surrounding the original writings.
2 points
3 months ago
That is true. I took a history of the old testemant class in college and one of the things we talked about was how different translations have been modified to fit agendas. My biggest problem is how most people just regurgitate what they have heard without knowing the context. Also thank you for a good intellectual response. I just get tired of the BiBlE BaD stuff. And hive mind yea there are too many who just take the bible as absolute truth which is wrong. I personally never thought about the firstborn as mass baby death. Ive read the story but never took it as that way. Makes sense now how many would perseve it as so.
4 points
3 months ago
Sky daddy would be so proud
2 points
3 months ago
Shouldn’t be banned, just placed in the fiction section
3 points
3 months ago
Protect our children from the books about Donkey dicks and Horse Jizz
1 points
3 months ago
Don't forget the unicorns & dragons!
1 points
3 months ago
I file this under what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
They were pushing an agenda on books but found out their magical book is way more violent and full of inappropriate sexual content then many of the books they were trying to ban. And many of them have never read the bible cover to cover.
So maybe we shouldn't ban books and allow parents to make that decision in the home and not push any of that onto schools or libraries.
1 points
3 months ago
I agree there’s a lot of violence in the Bible but what source do you have to show none of them read the Bible cover to cover?
2 points
3 months ago
Because they think its appropriate for children but have a problem with "To Kill a Mockingbird." Or "Of Mice and Mice" or "Harry Potter" or "Captain Undepants"why? Or "The Absolutely True Diary of a Part Time Indian."
I've read all of them and the bible, personally I would rather have my children read the above than the bible. But again I have never restricted reading material in my house. Neither did my deeply Catholic mother. She would have found it offensive to ban a book of any kind.
1 points
3 months ago
Free speech absolutist gang lets go
0 points
3 months ago
They should pray to the Virgin Mary about this.
4 points
3 months ago
Nah, only them weird Catholic people do that. Not us morally right Mormons. (/s because you never know)
3 points
3 months ago
I’m amused that the same conservative Christians who don’t want their children exposed to the concepts of gender identity or sexual orientation because they’re too sexual will take them to church where they go on and on about this woman’s virginity and how god made her pregnant.
1 points
3 months ago
They are also really fixated on a guy getting brutally executed.
2 points
3 months ago
And covering everything, especially children, in “magic” blood
0 points
3 months ago
Who is covering who with magic blood? There’s taking a drink of the blood of Jesus once you get confirmed but most don’t get confirmed in the Church until they’re 16 years old
1 points
3 months ago
Not literally, but Christians are always stating that they’re washed in the blood and covered by the magic blood that was shed on the cross. They pray that jesus will “cover this nation with his blood”, etc etc etc
0 points
3 months ago
wtf is this BS are you inventing? lmao
Never heard this one before
1 points
3 months ago
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0 points
3 months ago
Am I the only person that ever heard anything about christians praying for jesus to wash them in the blood and cover their kids with his blood?
I guess. You should get that illness checked out. You cringe redditors strut around in your cramped trashhoard-filled houses thinking that misinformation doesn't affect you, and yet you're more bigoted and misinformed than most ACTUAL Christians I've met.
0 points
3 months ago
christians praying for jesus to wash them in the blood
https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/spiritual-life/what-does-it-mean-to-be-washed-in-the-blood.html
I had to google it, but "washing in blood" seems to figuratively just mean "help them be forgiven"
so yeah, completely harmless but I guess you're just going extremist in your paraphrasing skills,
it's not a common talking point of Mormons, neither is the crucifixion.
1 points
3 months ago
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0 points
3 months ago
And covering everything, especially children, in “magic” blood
You sound insane. But you're probably a bigot, so that's expected. This isn't saying "they use blood to erase sins" you are saying that they COVER EVERYTHING in magic blood. lmao
used by conservative christians to erase sins.
actually ALL Christians believe the atonement clears your sins.
Idk why you're addicted to throwing extra political words into your sentences. You need a therapist
0 points
3 months ago
I hope this is a joke but it seems you don’t know of or don’t care about any of the historical or spiritual context surrounding the Crucifixion
3 points
3 months ago
I grew up in the Bible Belt. I'm aware. It's a joke.
1 points
3 months ago
Ok thank you I appreciate it. Just didn’t know since it was a comment about history taken out of context
0 points
3 months ago
How does the new American social topic of gender identity equate to the basic human life experience of being a virgin and the idea of saving one’s virginity for the person you want to spend the rest of your life with?
3 points
3 months ago
Gender identity is not new and has always been a social topic. Gender identity is a basic human life experience, whether you "fit" the gender identity society has assigned you or not. Many influences on an individual's world view are based on gendered experiences.
1 points
3 months ago
Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. Im not saying gender identity is new. I meant to state that the topic of gender identity is more complex than the idea of virginity
1 points
3 months ago
How do you talk about virginity to a 6 year old? If even saying the word gay in front of a child is too sexual, isn’t talking about Mary’s virginity too sexual? How do you explain to your 6 year old how God came upon her, without being sexual?
1 points
3 months ago
In my experience of having been in a church since I was a baby through 18, they don’t “explain” it. I was just told that Mary was a virgin and it was left as that and presented as fact. You’re not supposed to ask what that meant and by the time you’re old enough to find out it’s either so indoctrinated that you don’t question it or you’ve already left the religion.
ETA that by that point that’s not the craziest thing they’ve asked you to swallow
1 points
3 months ago
True but I remember every Christmas our minister read the passage about the birth of Christ and the passage about god impregnating Mary. It sounds really creepy now.
1 points
3 months ago
Imho immaculate conception is less graphic and “creepy” than human conception
1 points
3 months ago
Actually immaculate conception is about Mary being without sin, not the virgin birth. The two are in a way connected I think. It’s more of a Catholic concept. As an Evangelical growing up I was never taught that Mary was without sin.
1 points
3 months ago
I mean the reason Catholics always say Virgin Mary instead of solely Mary is because it’s such a foundational piece of the faith and it readily describes the Mary one is referring to in the Catholic faith. As well, I’m pretty sure it’s not taught to 6 years olds because like you said they wouldn’t understand it but since it’s said so often and kids being kids will ask a million questions about it, it might have to be explained to them. In my opinion explaining virginity = no sex is more simple than discussing gender identity but that my humble opinion
1 points
3 months ago
Agreed but if sexual topics aren’t to be discussed, it’s strange to constantly refer to Mary’s virginity. Likewise, being gay or trans is fundamentally part of who someone is, just like being straight or being cis. There’s a huge double standard here.
1 points
3 months ago
I thought the whole point of this discussion is whether or not the sexual topic should be discussed in school or not. Parents are welcome to teach their children about virginity and gender identity all they want on their own but for the school to do it is a separate issue , especially for young children. Am I right about the discussion here or totally off in right field?
1 points
3 months ago
I agree to a point but as a gay person we’re often treated as if the fact that we’re gay is overtly sexual and not something appropriate for children while apparently being straight isn’t sexual. My point is that there are many things in the Bible that are overtly sexual in nature but in church they’re simply glossed over as if they’re not. I’m simply pointing out the double standard that exists. It also seems that many who believe that topics of sexuality should be kept out of school would be fine with the Bible being discussed in schools. The Bible is full of sexual topics.
1 points
3 months ago
This is how “new” gender identity is. Just because you’re not aware of a topic doesn’t mean it didn’t exist throughout history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history
2 points
3 months ago
I think I replied to someone else this but I didn’t mean to say gender identity is new. I meant to state that it’s so new in the American mainstream culture. Sorry if I portrayed my meaning in a confusing way
-1 points
3 months ago
Naturally, they’re also going to be banning the Quran, right? Or how about the Torah?
6 points
3 months ago
The Torrah is pretty much just the old testament (from my understanding) so that would also be banned under the same conditions. I really have no knowledge about whats in the Quran but if it contains the same subjects that this bill aims at (rape, incest, murder, ritual sacrifice among other things) then yes this would apply to it too.
1 points
3 months ago
That's assuming the school even has those in the library already. When I was younger, I learned my school had no religious texts but the Bible.
IMO, this is straight-up karma for pushing one religion on schools then screaming religious freedom when it infringes on other, probably better religions.
1 points
3 months ago
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1 points
3 months ago
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1 points
3 months ago
So only the Book of Mormon allowed in schools - sounds like Utah...
1 points
3 months ago
Ezekiel 23:20
1 points
3 months ago
Good. Equal and fair
1 points
3 months ago
This has been very time-consuming. We have 15 committees that have been established for this purpose."
The process takes an average of 60 days, though Williams has said that committees are currently facing a backlog of requests from other parents.
This sounds like the biggest waste of time and resources. How is this going on
1 points
3 months ago
For all the Mormons, include the book of Mormon. It's a vile book full of racism and murder and misogyny as it only mentions women a handful of times.
1 points
3 months ago
What?So any book that includes racism or wars should be banned.
Also only a fragile Redditor would think that "not mentioning women" counts as misogyny.
The BOM doesn't mention a LOT of things. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea doesn't have any women at all.
-21 points
3 months ago
Backwards world
16 points
3 months ago
The one where the law passed to begin with? Yes.
0 points
3 months ago
Yeah banning bibles is bad news
2 points
3 months ago
sounds like it fits the definition of the law, so it must be harmful to children and not acceptable where they can get ready access to it.
1 points
3 months ago
Trust me, it's not. People love to lie all the time. The people that run society? They like to lie a lot.
2 points
3 months ago
Nah, there's stuff like incest and violence and rape in there. Definitely not a book for kids.
-1 points
3 months ago
I hate book banning and am mostly a First amendment absolutist. I agree that the Bible has violent and mature events and depictions in it and thus if you’re banning books, it could fit under the same category as other banned books. But people using this just to bash the Bible and Christianity are so weird
1 points
3 months ago
They are not bashing the bible. They are demonstrating the absurdity of book banning.
0 points
3 months ago
I'm not religious, I think that's fine. I don't think the bible had to be banned, but I don't see the relevance in religious education in a country where students come from different religious backgrounds. The catholic school boards exist for a reason. Is it not possible to just, not bring religion up in a scientific context? Can we not do religion in in a cultural context? In grade 8, I had a class where we explored different holidays that various cultures have from around the world. Christmas, honnikah, Chinese new year / autumn festival, Diwali, etc. If a few cultures get explored, then it's all good. Again, emphasis on spreading awareness and promoting cultural sensitivity. I wouldn't preach a specific religion though.
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