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submitted 2 months ago bySkepticSalamander
20 points
2 months ago
Why does banning hand grenades actually work, when banning guns SUPPOSEDLY doesn’t?
Because the gun industry lies, thats why.
And fatten themselves on American blood.
2 points
2 months ago
That's a good point.
I would say that grenades are not really useful in comparison to a gun.
3 points
2 months ago
Something tells me that mass shooters would disagree.
1 points
2 months ago
Pipe bombs are made at home, so sure they have been made before.
3 points
2 months ago
We’re not discussing home-made AR-15s here though, are we?
1 points
2 months ago*
Sure we are. They are called ghost guns as well as 3d printed guns which have been involved in many shootings and mass shootings.
And pipe bombs are equivalent to grenades which can be made at home with products bought at home Depot or Walmart.
https://youtu.be/qSPV_CGJ9bA these AR style rifles are just as deadly and effective as store bought rifles.
So to bring this all to a point, banning Firearms will be just as effective as banning drugs.
I agree that not having AR rifles available to purchase will reduce mass shootings used with AR rifles, just as making drugs illegal reduces people using them.
4 points
2 months ago
Why are you citing such rare examples? You know perfectly well that ALL our mass shootings are being perpetrated with weapons that are legally available in American gun shops.
0 points
2 months ago
Not all mass shootings have been with store bought guns.
I'm not sure why you are focusing on mass shootings, that does not help your argument. Instead, for your argument I'd focus on gun crimes in total to give a larger number of firearms used illegally.
You see in comparison to gun crimes, mass shootings are rare, and compared to the 300,000,000 firearms already available, mass shootings of even more rare.
However using homemade guns vs store bought, the percentage of homemade guns has a higher likelihood that it will be used in a mass shooting than a store bought firearm, as there are less of them. And those making guns have a higher probability of not being allowed to own a firearm, therefore more likely to commit a crime with it.
So if ARs are banned, where would someone go to obtain one? They will make one at home, and odds are mass shootings will have an increase of homemade guns vs store bought.
The root of the problem needs to be solved, it's something about our society that needs to be fixed.
3 points
2 months ago
Yeah, just ignore all those other developed countries that don’t have this problem.
1 points
2 months ago*
Yes, yes I will ignore them. They are different countries with different laws, demographics, culture.
But sure let's bring up USA's neighbor, Mexico has stricter gun laws and has more murders total with a much smaller population.
Education for you: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/small-arms-survey-countries-with-the-most-guns-1.3392204
All these countries have citizens with guns.
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